All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[numberthirty]

Y'know, for "an independent" you sure fail at ever criticizing Trump.

And have had nothing but venom for Clinton, and now Biden.

It's almost like you're not representing yourself to the political discussion honestly, and folks would be foolish to regard your opinions at face value.

While there's usually just not much of a point in addressing this bit...

If someone was discussing a "Sanders Versus Biden..." point?

Trump is, at best, a non-issue unless you are someone who has some sort of an obsessive compulsive disorder that forces you to attempt to shoehorn Donald Trump into things that he has nothing to do with.

As for "Venom..."?

Warren having laid out the issue that I brought up makes me feel pretty secure in that I have no particular bias against Biden, and that I am taking him to task on an issue where his approach was particularly glaring when it comes to representing the regular "Jane"/"Joe".

That's not "Venom"(any more than having pointed out that Trump is the most likely to beat himself in a General Election represents some sort of "Venom" against him...) It is simply laying out an issue that Elizabeth Warren and most folks that are willing to be straight with themselves can see is right there in plain sight.

Never mind what it means when you try to stack it up against Sanders having put a collective bargaining agreement in place that gave the regular "Jane"/"Joe" the means to address that a longer work week creates an issue in what their hourly wage amounts to.

[Gray Lensman]

From the news - Trump's polling gives him an approval rating of only 43%.....in a Rasmussen poll.

And if Trump is to be believed in one of his rare moments of honesty no Republican will ever win a statewide election in Virginia ever again.

[InformationGeek]

For the first time in history there is a fully signed Presidential Disaster Declaration for all 50 States. We are winning, and will win, the war on the Invisible Enemy!

That is not winning. That is awful. This is awful. This is a national disaster. F**k Trump.

[Tami]

From the news - Trump's polling gives him an approval rating of only 43%.....in a Rasmussen poll.

And if Trump is to be believed in one of his rare moments of honesty no Republican will ever win a statewide election in Virginia ever again.

If we're lucky, no republican will win an election for at least the next 8 - 12 years.

[Mister Mets]

If only there was a group that was Chinese AND Muslim, that already faces internal persecution in their own country for practicing their own religion and the international scene ignores them due to the faith they happen to believe in, then these folks could have the scapegoat of their dreams. Hmm...

The problem with Harding isn't that he campaigned on a return to his normalcy.

It was the corruption, and that he was way over his head (in a way that is quite Trumpy,) his appointments of family and friends to key offices, and his hands-off approach to the job (which might have been fine if the people he chose were competent.)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...affair/401288/

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinMKru...98897774477312

His Attorney General was a recurring character on Boardwalk Empire, as a business associate of the mobster lead.

https://boardwalkempire.fandom.com/wiki/Harry_Daugherty

There can still be a competent politician who provides a "return to normalcy."

[Steel Inquisitor]

Trump is, at best, a non-issue unless you are someone who has some sort of an obsessive compulsive disorder that forces you to attempt to shoehorn Donald Trump into things that he has nothing to do with.

"Donald Trump is a non-issue" speaks volumes, especially during a worldwide pandemic where his terrible leadership has a large body count.

[Gray Lensman]

If we're lucky, no republican will win an election for at least the next 8 - 12 years.

Honestly, I think they need 12 years out of power to re-assess themselves and maybe come back after rediscovering their humanity (and the concept of democracy) - and I say this as someone who was registered as a Republican until early 2017.

[Darkspellmaster]

Honestly, I think they need 12 years out of power to re-assess themselves and maybe come back after rediscovering their humanity (and the concept of democracy) - and I say this as someone who was registered as a Republican until early 2017.

It might take that or longer. An honest question, is the name Republican tainted enough now thanks to Trump that any candidate would not want to put the letter next to their name?

[Gray Lensman]

It might take that or longer. An honest question, is the name Republican tainted enough now thanks to Trump that any candidate would not want to put the letter next to their name?

Not unless Trump starts polling in the 30s, or after a possible loss of power in Washington - if Trump loses in November, AND Moscow Mitch loses his job as minority leader outright (down to 49 or less in the Senate) then maybe in 2022 we will start seeing some shifts at the earliest.

[Kirby101]

We shall see in November if 2018 was a precursor or an anomaly. But gerrymandering has to be addressed to really end their hold.

[Electricmastro]

Not sure if this is the best forum to ask this in, but as I have been recently learning all sorts of things about race and the sorts of relations, particularly the ones between whites and blacks, that have been made known to me, it has all led me to ask one question which seems complicated to answer, which is: Are black people generally happy living in America today?

[Darkspellmaster]

So apparently the situation in China is getting worse for Africans. They are now being removed from their homes. And are being subjected to not being allowed in restaurants and mandatory quarantines and testing, unlike other Chinese citizens.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...-reports-black

CNN is also reporting on this:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/china...ntl/index.html

Hong Kong (CNN)The African community in Guangzhou is on edge after widespread accounts were shared on social media of people being left homeless this week, as China's warnings against imported coronavirus cases stoke anti-foreigner sentiment.

In the southern Chinese city, Africans have been evicted from their homes by landlords and turned away from hotels, despite many claiming to have no recent travel history or known contact with Covid-19 patients.

[numberthirty]

"Donald Trump is a non-issue" speaks volumes, especially during a worldwide pandemic where his terrible leadership has a large body count.

While this is again the sort of thing that usually isn't worth bothering with...

If this is clearly the issue at hand?

Here's a little fun fact on the Biden vs Bernie thing. Biden helped in securing an additional $600 a week of unemployment insurance; which the dems helped Americans receive this boost during the pandemic. Bernie has always been an advocate for a livable wage but he paid his staff less than $13 an hour. His staff's union had to fight Bernie for them to finally receive that livable wage from Bernie.

Donald Trump is, at best a non-issue. More to the point, anyone from a part of the political equation that is not going by the name "Democrat" is a non-issue.

The entire point was Biden versus Sanders place in how the regular working person is being represented by the politicians who would claim to be looking out for them. Never mind that one of them gave those working people the means to negotiate a fair compensation package for the work that they do.

[numberthirty]

It might take that or longer. An honest question, is the name Republican tainted enough now thanks to Trump that any candidate would not want to put the letter next to their name?

One guy's take...

I'd say that the question leaves out that the candidates involved are a piece of a larger landscape.

If the other major party doesn't make much in the way of headway when it comes to looking out for the regular "Jane"/"Joe"?

Just how completely tainted would the Republican Party name need to be for someone not to think "Well, It's Not Like The Other Major Party Has Made This A Thing Not Worth Doing..."

Never mind that the outskirts(folks like Mark Levin come to mind...) are actively pointing to what the "Washington" Republicans are doing and saying that it runs counter to what "Republican..." actually is.

I don't get the impression that they see what they seem to believe would be getting things back on track as some sort of a lost cause because the party name has been sullied beyond repair.

[GindyPosts]

That is not winning. That is awful. This is awful. This is a national disaster. F**k Trump.

You know... when it's all said and done, we could have 150,000 Americans die from this disease, and Trump can spin that as going "Only 150,000 people died" and his followers will say that was a good thing, like he did a commendable job.