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    Quote Originally Posted by Punjabi_Hitman View Post
    Micheal B Jordan’s plan was irrational and stupid. His plan required absolute luck to work. And is basically doing what everyone was so happy they were making fun of. Colonialism. People’s positive reactions to Kilmonger’s plans are understandable but hypocritical at best

    T’Challa’s plan at the end of the movie is a far better plan than what Kilmonger was trying to do. And actually is the most super heroic thing any of these heroes have done yet.

    Why isn't anyone crediting Nakia? T'Challa's plan was basically hers. She was the healthy median between the two viewpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post
    This is great. I'm so happy about this film's performance.

    It also ended up hitting $100m in China, despite the steep drop it took.
    http://variety.com/2018/film/news/bl...-2-1202735450/

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    robreedwrites, I want you to do my taxes because you have been on point with the numbers very extra like...


    Is Trolling and Lurking a tax write off I got the receipts to prove it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
    This is great. I'm so happy about this film's performance.

    It also ended up hitting $100m in China, despite the steep drop it took.
    http://variety.com/2018/film/news/bl...-2-1202735450/
    That is the definition of awesome.
    "We live in a world of cowards. We live in a world full of small minds who are afraid. We are ruled by those who refuse to risk anything of their own. Who guard their over bloated paucities of power with money. With false reasoning. With measured hesitance. With prideful, recalcitrant inaction. With hateful invective. With weapons. F@#K these selfish fools and their prevailing world order." Tony Stark

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    China's warming up to BP more then they want to admit. It should calr around 110 most likely

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    Queen Nakia: "Wake up T'challa."

    King T'challa: "I is woke now!"


    With all this talk about whether or not T'challa was a "compelling character" in his own movie let's start with the fact that he is the titled name of the reason this epic movie exists called Black Panther!

    I seriously doubt anyone is paying a cool billion dollars to see "The Great Adventures of General Okoye" or "Nakia: The Spy Who Loved Wakanda" or even "Erik Killmonger Seal Team 6 Dead or Alive part 5!"

    Sales from Shuri's solo comic flopped miserably as did World of Wakanda so the breadwinner in this royal family is and has always been T'challa period!

    SURE... The other leading ladies stole some scenery with arguably better lines but that is like Halle Berry as the then resident Bond Girl emerging out of the beach waters to tease James Bond with what is still an iconic scene steal but the rumors of a Jynx spinoff went the same place Black Panther and the crew fell off to!

    Anybody who wanted anything significant to do in this film had to run it through the point guard in the Wakanda basketball team named T'challa or it was not going to happen!

    From rescuing Nakia, making M'baku tap out to even agreeing to fight Killmonger who he could have let weeks pass before stepping into the waterfall octagon allowing massive amount of prep time while Mister Black Ops specialist killed time and shopped in downtown Wakanda!

    Erik Killmonger: "It's been two weeks already when we fighting?"

    King T'challa: "The waterfall be acting up sometimes... I will talk to Wakanda's finest plumber and get to the bottom of the this right away I promise."

    Erik Killmonger: "I think you're stalling dude..."

    King T'challa: "Naw cousin, here have another water tribe burrito and try these fried yams they good as a mutha mmmm!"

    Agent Ross: "Hey, I got that intel you wanted Erik is trained in these forms of martial arts and..."

    King T'challa: "Shhhhh!"

    Erik Killmonger: "HEY, Is that my state department file?"

    Agent Ross: "What file?" (Swallows data)

    King T'challa: "Hey I gotta go out of town for some political convention and whatnot just keep shopping I gotchoo money aint a thang whatever you want and when I get back we will fight okay!"

    Erik Killmonger: "I waited a long time for this moment...I lied, I killed, I shopped on this continent... And all this shopping just so I can..."

    King T'challa: "Shop a little while longer we have a swap meet at the border and you can even ride trained rhinos... W'kabi come get yo boy over here!"

    W'kabi: "BRO! Are those leather?"

    Erik Killmonger: "Yeah, I got these over at that little shop near the vibranium mines with the pants that match... You likes."

    W'kabi: "You were killing us with the Vegeta look let's go get that hair cut for fight night."

    King T'challa: "Keep him shopping I'll be back soon."

    Anyway...

    Try selling any character in the Black Panther mythos without T'challa and I say good luck with that!

    The votes are in... Compel that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post
    Queen Nakia: "Wake up T'challa."

    King T'challa: "I is woke now!"


    With all this talk about whether or not T'challa was a "compelling character" in his own movie let's start with the fact that he is the titled name of the reason this epic movie exists called Black Panther!

    I seriously doubt anyone is paying a cool billion dollars to see "The Great Adventures of General Okoye" or "Nakia: The Spy Who Loved Wakanda" or even "Erik Killmonger Seal Team 6 Dead or Alive part 5!"

    Sales from Shuri's solo comic flopped miserably as did World of Wakanda so the breadwinner in this royal family is and has always been T'challa period!

    SURE... The other leading ladies stole some scenery with arguably better lines but that is like Halle Berry as the then resident Bond Girl emerging out of the beach waters to tease James Bond with what is still an iconic scene steal but the rumors of a Jynx spinoff went the same place Black Panther and the crew fell off to!

    Anybody who wanted anything significant to do in this film had to run it through the point guard in the Wakanda basketball team named T'challa or it was not going to happen!

    From rescuing Nakia, making M'baku tap out to even agreeing to fight Killmonger who he could have let weeks pass before stepping into the waterfall octagon allowing massive amount of prep time while Mister Black Ops specialist killed time and shopped in downtown Wakanda!

    Erik Killmonger: "It's been two weeks already when we fighting?"

    King T'challa: "The waterfall be acting up sometimes... I will talk to Wakanda's finest plumber and get to the bottom of the this right away I promise."

    Erik Killmonger: "I think you're stalling dude..."

    King T'challa: "Naw cousin, here have another water tribe burrito and try these fried yams they good as a mutha mmmm!"

    Agent Ross: "Hey, I got that intel you wanted Erik is trained in these forms of martial arts and..."

    King T'challa: "Shhhhh!"

    Erik Killmonger: "HEY, Is that my state department file?"

    Agent Ross: "What file?" (Swallows data)

    King T'challa: "Hey I gotta go out of town for some political convention and whatnot just keep shopping I gotchoo money aint a thang whatever you want and when I get back we will fight okay!"

    Erik Killmonger: "I waited a long time for this moment...I lied, I killed, I shopped on this continent... And all this shopping just so I can..."

    King T'challa: "Shop a little while longer we have a swap meet at the border and you can even ride trained rhinos... W'kabi come get yo boy over here!"

    W'kabi: "BRO! Are those leather?"

    Erik Killmonger: "Yeah, I got these over at that little shop near the vibranium mines with the pants that match... You likes."

    W'kabi: "You were killing us with the Vegeta look let's go get that hair cut for fight night."

    King T'challa: "Keep him shopping I'll be back soon."

    Anyway...

    Try selling any character in the Black Panther mythos without T'challa and I say good luck with that!

    The votes are in... Compel that!

    Shuri solo book?

    When did that happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr MajestiK View Post
    Shuri solo book?

    When did that happen?
    Klaws of the Panther? That art was a tragedy. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    Klaws of the Panther? That art was a tragedy. Lol
    Yeah, but that was a mini series and not some long standing solo book.

    Maberry's "Power" arc featuring Shuri as the Black Panther, was solidly legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Quoted for truth.

    Kilmonger was a true sympathetic villain, the best kind there are. It makes the story that much better than having a mustache twirling, bad just-because-we-need-a-villain-for-the-movie type character.

    But no matter how sympathetic we are, his action cannot allow you to root for his cause.

    Do you root for the devil because he was cast out of Heaven?

    No.
    Eirc was right, but so was Black panther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    I disagree. Every MCU movie this far has been both critically and commercially sucessful.
    Hulk, Thor 1 and 2, Cap 1 and Ironman 2 all did ok critically and commercially. They didn't do as well as Marvel wanted them to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post
    Queen Nakia: "Wake up T'challa."

    King T'challa: "I is woke now!"


    With all this talk about whether or not T'challa was a "compelling character" in his own movie let's start with the fact that he is the titled name of the reason this epic movie exists called Black Panther!

    I seriously doubt anyone is paying a cool billion dollars to see "The Great Adventures of General Okoye" or "Nakia: The Spy Who Loved Wakanda" or even "Erik Killmonger Seal Team 6 Dead or Alive part 5!"

    Sales from Shuri's solo comic flopped miserably as did World of Wakanda so the breadwinner in this royal family is and has always been T'challa period!

    SURE... The other leading ladies stole some scenery with arguably better lines but that is like Halle Berry as the then resident Bond Girl emerging out of the beach waters to tease James Bond with what is still an iconic scene steal but the rumors of a Jynx spinoff went the same place Black Panther and the crew fell off to!

    Anybody who wanted anything significant to do in this film had to run it through the point guard in the Wakanda basketball team named T'challa or it was not going to happen!

    From rescuing Nakia, making M'baku tap out to even agreeing to fight Killmonger who he could have let weeks pass before stepping into the waterfall octagon allowing massive amount of prep time while Mister Black Ops specialist killed time and shopped in downtown Wakanda!

    Erik Killmonger: "It's been two weeks already when we fighting?"

    King T'challa: "The waterfall be acting up sometimes... I will talk to Wakanda's finest plumber and get to the bottom of the this right away I promise."

    Erik Killmonger: "I think you're stalling dude..."

    King T'challa: "Naw cousin, here have another water tribe burrito and try these fried yams they good as a mutha mmmm!"

    Agent Ross: "Hey, I got that intel you wanted Erik is trained in these forms of martial arts and..."

    King T'challa: "Shhhhh!"

    Erik Killmonger: "HEY, Is that my state department file?"

    Agent Ross: "What file?" (Swallows data)

    King T'challa: "Hey I gotta go out of town for some political convention and whatnot just keep shopping I gotchoo money aint a thang whatever you want and when I get back we will fight okay!"

    Erik Killmonger: "I waited a long time for this moment...I lied, I killed, I shopped on this continent... And all this shopping just so I can..."

    King T'challa: "Shop a little while longer we have a swap meet at the border and you can even ride trained rhinos... W'kabi come get yo boy over here!"

    W'kabi: "BRO! Are those leather?"

    Erik Killmonger: "Yeah, I got these over at that little shop near the vibranium mines with the pants that match... You likes."

    W'kabi: "You were killing us with the Vegeta look let's go get that hair cut for fight night."

    King T'challa: "Keep him shopping I'll be back soon."

    Anyway...

    Try selling any character in the Black Panther mythos without T'challa and I say good luck with that!

    The votes are in... Compel that!
    Oh sweet baby bast that is hilarious!.

    Yeah I watched the movie again last night.. T'Challa was at the center of everything. The throne room scene with Erik and Tchalla when they meet up was POWERFUL there was all types of lightning and heavy words being dropped from both of them. I don't know how people think T'Challa was outshined. Dude easily carried every scene he was in.

    On a second note I have to wonder. When Shuri meets uo with Tchalla to get the EMP beads and says she had an update, the way that Tchalla responses ", Update? No they work perfect" and her response, makes me wonder if T'Challa designed then actually instead of Shuri. That whole encounter about the beads and the banter. I think T'Challa maybe created them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    Oh sweet baby bast that is hilarious!.

    Yeah I watched the movie again last night.. T'Challa was at the center of everything. The throne room scene with Erik and Tchalla when they meet up was POWERFUL there was all types of lightning and heavy words being dropped from both of them. I don't know how people think T'Challa was outshined. Dude easily carried every scene he was in.

    On a second note I have to wonder. When Shuri meets uo with Tchalla to get the EMP beads and says she had an update, the way that Tchalla responses ", Update? No they work perfect" and her response, makes me wonder if T'Challa designed then actually instead of Shuri. That whole encounter about the beads and the banter. I think T'Challa maybe created them
    That's what I've been thinking too. "Can't wait to see your improvements". If they were the WDGs, they would have copies or the design on file that she could update instead of needing his. They might be the only set and belong to him. Must theory though.

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