Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
My thoughts exactly.
Oh, and ‘despite what it looked like I was still in the fight’ so he’s mad at his corner for throwing in the towel, because he’s told them never to do that. The guy was beat and dead on his feet. Were his corner just supposed to let him die?
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Eh, there are plenty of great aspects of masculinity that have no social toxicity or thin-skinned tendencies inherent to them. Being able to take a hit/loss and not bullshit about it is one of them.
Okay --
1. It implies that it's 'not-men' who whine and complain and are poor losers. And women are one of that 'Not-man' group (I understand, it might also imply 'you're being a child', but really, we should say 'like an adult' if that's the case, especially since there is no 'take your loss like a woman' phrase that's meant in any way positively towards women...every statement I hear men say about 'loss' and 'woman' tends to be a negative one);
2. In my experience, an awful lot of men tend to be poor losers.
So.... ^_^ I just think it might be better to replace the phrase with something like...'take your loss like an adult'.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
I think that's inherent to adulthood, not masculinity. Women suffer loss in silence or in good grace AT LEAST as well as men tend to.
Edit: It should be noted that I'm talking about 'taking losses of some kind', not 'taking a punch in the face'. Men -- being on average larger, bigger boned, and carrying more muscle mass -- TEND to have the capacity to take hits better than a woman does, on a purely physical basis. ^_^
Last edited by Sharpandpointies; 02-25-2020 at 06:23 AM.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
You might not mean it in that way but it's a phrase that's not rooted in a good or healthy perspective. It also reinforces the notion in other contexts that men, by definition, cannot show emotions other than stoicism or rage.
Being a man is three dimensional, there is no true masculine archetype and trying to cleave to such a thing only creates tension, exclusion and, in the worst cases, bigotry.
Personally, I continue to remove overly gendered expressions from my vocabulary. I also got a lot of non binary friends so I'm doubly motivated to not indulge in language of that type.
Not saying you were looking down on women, yourself. I'm saying the phrase can be taken as sexist, and it doesn't matter if a woman says it, the implication can be there.
Also, I don't particularly feel it's accurate, myself. ^_^
Also, this isn't a 'Hey, FistofIron, how DARE you use such speech, get out!' discussion. It's a 'I'm don't think that's a good phrase anymore' kind of thing.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate