Yea, like we have been talking about, this while having messy points is still an arc for Wanda. Going Villian would be a retroverting her charcter not just back to the start of the WandaVision show, but much more and would make her growth and all her acceptance in losing Vision and her kids a BIG waste of time.
I don't see the MCU wanting to undercut all that work and money they put into her for something to just take it back. That is why while I get where the fear comes form, it just does not add up at all to me and this show showed us that pretty well. Tragity and unforseen storms of mistakes WAY different form Twiring the Mustache Villiany.
"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
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Fietro is a different beast than Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock, however. One, Cox has already played Matt in a Disney owned Marvel production, as opposed to Peters playing Quicksilver for Fox.
Secondly, Evan Peters' casting wasn't meant to be a trolling of the audience, it was meant to put the audience in the same position as Wanda. Here is somebody who doesn't look like the Pietro from AoU, but who you are willing to accept might actually be Pietro because of reasons that play on your emotions instead of your logic and so you make up reasons to accept that it actually is Pietro even when all evidence suggests it cannot be.
I absolutely get why some fans are annoyed by the way it was used, but it was actually a fairly brilliant piece of the casting suiting the writing. Part red herring, part easter egg and all the while using the audience's reactions to connect them to Wanda and her reactions.
That is very much my head canon now. Makes sense to me that a chaos witch, even one who isn't aware of what she is, would subconsciously tug on that magic and twist the lines of probability around her. Maybe she's drawn to these big events or maybe they're drawn to her, but I want to believe it's been happening since the start.
This is very well said. Bravo.
And while yes, Wanda has done something terrible here, so has most everyone else. Widow has all that red in her ledger. Cap broke America's top intelligence agency. Tony created Ultron and is largely responsible for breaking the Avengers. Thor blew up his entire planet! They all had their reasons, but they've all done things or made mistakes that ruined tons of lives. Wanda's mistake is no worse than most of their's, and while she needs to atone for her sins in West View, she doesn't deserve utter condemnation either. There was no malice in her actions, only grief.
One main point of the five year gap is that everyone who's left has forgotten, in various ways, how to be heroes, or more broadly what heroism means. Except Banner anyway, who's the exception that proves the rule. Clint went over the line and became judge, jury, and executioner, killing people because they were bad but mostly because his family died and they didn't. Clint's subplot also helps give the audience a better idea of the global situation; via Scott Lang and Cap we see how things are on the street, and from Nat's Avengers we see that super villains don't seem to be a problem, while Clint's situation tells us that organized crime is still prevalent; pro sports have shut down, governments are crippled, even the climate is changing (whales in the Hudson), but organized crime? Still all over the world and going strong. The fact that Clint was able to brutally murder countless mob bosses and all their goons for five years with half the world's population gone and everything else destabilized, helps tell us the world didn't get better like Thanos promised.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
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How so? Until Agatha undoes the Hex rewriting Wanda genuinely doesn't realize that she has trapped these people in Hell. But as it dawns on her, what is the very, literally first thing she does? She begins dismantling the Hex. No questions, no hesitation. There is a brief detour when she sees the effects on Billy, Tommy and Vision, but even that is clearly not done maliciously and she is obviously on the path to undoing the Hex from that moment on.
You can absolutely be critical of Wanda for taking so long to see the truth. I think that's absolutely fair. I don't excuse, I understand. I get why she was blind, why she couldn't and maybe didn't want to let herself see it. But you can't honestly try to claim that she knowingly did anything to harm people, because that's not what was presented in the show. She absolutely did harm people, let's not beat around the bush there. But it's a heat of the moment, overwhelmed by emotions kind of situation that is so far from the choices Hawkeye made that I'm honestly flummoxed that you'd even attempt to genuinely equate the two.
Well one can warp the fabric of reality with a wave of her hands, and the other... shoots arrows with a bow. Which one do think has more "Thanos" potential?
Man, they really built up Monica to be a big deal, the way she fought and clawed her way back into the hex, you think she's going to get this great big emotional moment where she talks Wanda back from the edge or something, but no. Just a big ol' commercial for Captain Marvel 2. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get.
"The White Queen welcomes you, TO DIE!"
"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
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Funny, I always considered Marvel Studios and Marvel TV to be entirely separate entities. And Cox's Daredevil belonged to Netflix. I never watched the show, but that's my understanding. I guess your point of view regarding Fietro makes quite a bit of sense. I still found the decision didn't make a huge impact on the series though. I like the misdirections, red herrings and even the flat-out lies that tricked audiences members throughout the show. I just think people are going to get weary if Marvel Studios does more Mandarin, Mysterio and Quicksilver style twists. Even though I thought all three of these fakeouts worked to a certain extent.
I doubt Wanda will be the next Thanos, I think she might be antagonize Doctor Strange for a bit while looking for her babies though.
Mysterio was always meant to be evil. More people would be annoyed if he wasn't.