Another thing is that Young Justice made me see what DC really is. Legacy. Marvel has reliability but DC is Inspirations and Legacy which I admire and find unique.
Another thing is that Young Justice made me see what DC really is. Legacy. Marvel has reliability but DC is Inspirations and Legacy which I admire and find unique.
The Marvel vs. DC thing has always been annoying. It's just that the mixed reviews and controversial creative decisions for Man of Steel made it much easier to tease the competition now.
They will leave the Avengers characters for a few years and concentrate on other characters and then a reboot of all the various Avengers characters with new actors. Superman, Batman,FF,Spider-Man, Hulk, various X-Men, all of them have had new actors playing them and the franchises go on.
Well, even if they just stop making Marvel movies altogether after IW (they won't, but if they did), that'd still be quite a freaking body of work - like around twenty films. That in itself would stand as a legendary pop culture achievement. That said, I think it's unwise to bet against Marvel finding ways to reinvent themselves and to stay relevant. It's easy to forget now but lot of people doubted that the first Iron Man would be a success or that they'd ever be able to make it all the way to the Avengers without a flop to derail their plans. Nothing along the way has been a sure or safe bet. So, I say it's best to sit back and enjoy the movies and not worry about how long they'll last.
I consider myself a Marvel fanboy and even I won't brand Marvel Studios without fault. There are some decisions that Marvel Studios have made that I do not like, execution of stories that I thought was stupid and movies that are just an unfunny joke.
The quality Marvel Studios has, that I do admire, is they really do care about the story they are trying to tell. Yes, the movies might not always be good or crowd-pleasing, but I believe in Kevin Feige. I think his heart is definitely in the right place. He's basically doing this with some major assets missing and the fact that Marvel Studios is basically the envy of other studios when it comes to superheroes just solidifies that faith I have. He has been involved in some major wins (X-Men, Spider-Man 2) as well as some major fails (Hulk, Elektra) prior to launching Marvel Studios. He let the creative people make some risky moves, but always wanted to have a cohesive universe that could not always be predicted.
As long as Kevin Feige is in charge of Marvel Studios, I feel they will get more right than wrong. Now that Feige is a little more free to do things as he sees fit, with Ike Perlmutter no longer the man to answer to, I think Marvel Studios has a bright future.
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NO it's a case of Marvel being forced to use others since their big dogs were in other folks hands unlike DC who had 2 guys.
One had to take a risk on Blade, Iron Man, Thor, Capt America & GOG.
The other rested on 2 guys for the most part.
The one advantage Marvel had over DC (at least until CA Civil War) was who you saw in those films was the SAME person you saw in the comics. Same with the cartoons and most of the live action shows.
Antman was somebody from the comic unlike Catwoman.
Tony Stark is Iron Man with a semi modified origin Unlike Steel whose origin had to be rewritten to remove Superman.
No one will ask shouldn't Iron Man be Tony, if Rhodey is in the outfit-because we have seen him in both medias as Iron Man unlike Green Lantern-who did a movie about a guy who was MIA outside of comics for 25 years.
The Marvel can do no wrong will be tested when 2 CERTAIN movies come out-
Captain Marvel. DESPITE all these other female lead films-super heroines are being held back because of Catwoman & Electkra's flops.
Black Panther-how much pressure is going to be on this film? How many guys's fates are dependent on this film?
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This, and many of the other points you make about DC, such as how you have come to appreciate the "gods amongst us" idea, may suggest that you are really expressing your own transition of taste.
Of course I don't know if you are or not, I only have a few words on a forum to go on. But, I wonder if you can elaborate on what you perceive is lacking in the Phase 2 movies. Is it related to their complexity and their move away from powerful heroes and towards more nuanced and often grey-area storytelling more akin to comic books?
AOU was such a horrible movie that I lost a lot of my enchantment with the MCU. For the moment I am not excited for the future MCU movies. I'm far more excited for the Netflix series they're going to put out.
Exactly. I couldn't have said it any better.
Again, I agree with you here.
Right now I think they're 50/50. I like their X-men movies, at least most of them, I agree with you on X3 and Origins, they were just god awful, IMO. But lets not forget their other franchise. Their Fantastic Four attempts were just all awful. But X1, X2, First Class, DOFP, and Wolverine2 were good. X3, Origins, FF, FF:ROTSS, and F4 were all just bad. IMO, they seem to be focusing on just the X franchise. This is just my opinion, of course
Again I agree. (been agreeing with you a lot today. LOL)
Yep. I remember people were saying... "Iron Man will flop" it becomes a big success. "Thor will flop." It is successful. "No one cares about an American Flag hero" it is also successful. "Avengers won't work" third highest grossing movie of all time (at the time).
Yep, again.
And yet again. I agree.
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"Too Disney" and "half-assed" just don't apply to the Phase II films. If anything, the Phase II films were more mature in tone (IM 3, Thor: The Dark World, and Avengers: Age of Ultron all being darker and more complex than their predecessors) and more ambitious in stretching into other genres (political thrillers, cosmic adventure, heist films) and none had no more overt humor or 'slapstick' that you'd see in the average Marvel comic.