"native language"? Hardly. This "we just invented this new language and are clear to only implant the knowledge of how to speak it to people on our team" is quite a bit different. It's closer to encoded than native. Are humans free to learn it? Doubt it.
Oh and Hong Kong international airport has english so visitors don't get lost:
Kind of a key difference between welcoming and excluding, don't you think?
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That is an airport a hub where people from different areas meet. Step out of an airport and see how many signs,You see after in a language you recognize.
Beside Krakoa isn't supposed to be welcoming to humans. I keeping these comments/arguments which hint at it is some sort of big deal of Krakoa exists that is closed off from humans. If after the Holocaust If Jews had a neighborhood/town that didn't want to invite Germans in we understand why right? If after Hiroshima if there was a town in Japan that didn't want Americans around we would understand right? Why it is so strange that safe haven against human oppression isn't welcoming to human. Krakoa isn't just a vanity project to show mutants have built their own nation. It is one part fallout shelter one part refugee camp. It is safe place if humans ever turn against mutants(which has happen several times now) It is safe place for mutants born an where to world to go because human countries haven't welcoming to mutants.
If humans didn't try push mutants to brink of extinction the wouldn't be need for Krakoa. One of the biggest complaints I have had with X-men is that mansion keeps blowing up and writers keep doing that so that mutants/X-men wouldn't feel safe. And the problem with that thinking is without a place to feel safe mutants have no choice but consider all options. When you corner someone they either curl up and submit or fight for their life.And now that X-men are fighting for their life people are shocked. This story is natural extension of the stories other X-men writers have been telling. It is weird to me people think you can't want peaceful coexistence but prepare like they are trying to wipe you off the planet. That was a big problem with X-men books before Hickman,The X-men looked like these fools who let their naivety and ideals get them killed. Why would a mutant trust the X-men to save them when they can't even protect themselves? What good is your ideals when you can't stop your people from dying? Look at the X-men stories over the years how many mutants have died while they were running around with "Xavier bright and beautiful dream of coexistence".
Isn't that exactly what Sabertooth, Mystique, and Toad did when they stole that info and maimed those guards? Basically saying we'll take what we want screw you!
But, Who was responsible for "No More Mutants? (Then a known mutant), Wanda Maximoff! Who was actually responsible for the Genoshan genocide? Cassandra Nova! Think about it...
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“And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Even if you are going with that theory which I don't feel like arguing against, Humans in situations all when mutants numbers are down go "Hey let's finish the job". It doesn't matter what starts it what humans do after is the important thing. I can bring up who started "the mutant cure" and Sentinels Program, Also General Callahan and O.N.E. The point remains the same if humans didn't try to push mutants to brink of extinction this wouldn't be happening.
This story is a result of X-men franchise consistently pushing extinction or extreme hate narrative. To break the X-men out of the cycle you need to push that narrative to as far you can push it so that it can be put down for a while. Hopefully at some point in this storyline the X-men and Krakoa save the world and it push a new era of peace between mutants and humans. But as long they keep pushing the extreme hate and fear narrative the X-men are forced to be this combative against humans.
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I wonder if anyone can come up with any alternative to the current premise that could be adopted by the mutants which can end the hostilities without sacrificing the ideals. Would be interesting to see what game plan could be adopted by mutants instead of the current one without compromise.
Not what he said. He effectively said “Krakoa is ours” nation building, not exclusion zone making. I wouldn’t have allowed those ambassadors into a disputed territory either. Doesn’t mean for example as some people have asked that Shogo can’t live on the island, or that trusted people can’t visit.
Until the book actually says this let’s assume it’s not what was intended.
“And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Krakoa might be the best thing for mutants but holding out candy (Krakoan gifts) with one hand while holding a Katana in the other isn't the way to achieve peace love and harmony. Remember how the Civil War started?
If there are hostilities I am sure they will be because AIM or some government is going to want to steal Krakoa technology.
It’s simple. They are being written that way. This isn’t by accident. This is provocation by the writer. He is throwing in the danger signs on purpose. He wants us to have this argument.
We would be better off seeing it neutrally. Seeing why we are in this position and also what a potentially problematic position this is, but it is human nature to see things more simply. It takes careful craft to provoke this kind of debate. That’s the skill of Hickman at play.
Me, I see this as an extremist, borderline fascist state of affairs. But I love that. It’s great fun. It’s challenging and provocative and that’s what I want from comics.
I have no time for apologists seeking to hand wave away the controversy, not because I don’t get it, but because it’s there in the page to be celebrated not to be denied and pushed aside.
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“And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr.