View Poll Results: Do you want to see Emma Frost back on an X-Men team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    I'm not entirely clear, that ugly costume at the end of the event and her hatred of the Inhumans has been completely ignored.
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    They pretty much ignored it for her as well.

    The new Magneto/Cyclops/BSDM costume introduced at the end of IvX #6 was never seen again (except for a changed teaser cover).

    She's certainly no longer being hunted down by the X-Men and Inhumans as she can live openly at easy-to-find locations in New York city.
    No one other than Emma has been impacted by IvX since it ended. Tyke maybe, but only in context to Emma. Everyone else forgot it the moment it happened, but they keep bringing it up with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWRlrus View Post
    No one other than Emma has been impacted by IvX since it ended. Tyke maybe, but only in context to Emma. Everyone else forgot it the moment it happened, but they keep bringing it up with her.
    Which is beyond stupid. The entire event gets ignored, except for the part where they blatantly character assassinated Emma in order to try and buy back fans of Cyclops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Which is beyond stupid. The entire event gets ignored, except for the part where they blatantly character assassinated Emma in order to try and buy back fans of Cyclops.
    It’s pretty funny, because that was exactly the worst move to make if that was their intention; I mean, even some of Jott’s biggest supporters weren’t having it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Which is beyond stupid. The entire event gets ignored, except for the part where they blatantly character assassinated Emma in order to try and buy back fans of Cyclops.
    I am going to read anything she is in. I am just keeping my fingers crossed with the recent appearances indicating that she is still operating as a hero (Iceman and Jessica Jones) that this is going to continue going forward into Uncanny 18. I was actually a bit surprised in Iceman #5 where Emma and Christian both jumped in to help the X-Men. Christian Frost really seems super keen to play superhero so I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on a book by the end of the year. Emma and Christian leave the scene after things settle down because Emma doesn't think the X-men want her there.

    I know some people are going to look at any excuse to hate Emma without looking at the entire run of the character. Sure she was emotionally wrecked when Scott died and she went kind of crazy, but you know what she isn't the first character that has happened to over the years. A lot of characters in comics do insane things when their romantic partners die in a tragic way. My impression is that Emma has been trying to rebuild her life since Mothervine, but she still cares about the X-Men a lot more than she lets on.

    She ended up helping teen Jean face the Phoenix, she asked Bobby to help her rescue Christian, she gave the X-Men information when they were looking for the returned adult Jean, she didn't hesitate to help during Infinity War, and she jumped in to help Jessica Jones even more than she was asked because she felt empathy for Jessica's emotional state.

    Emma took out the upper echelon of the Hellfire Club to get them out of the anti-mutant technology game once and for all. Just like Emma said in X-Men black, the Hellfire Club has doing everything they can for years to exacerbate the conflict between mutants and humans, and they profit off the technology that is used to kill mutants. Emma took over the club once and for all so she can force the Hellfire Club to throw all in on defending mutants. Emma was even grateful for the X-Men's help at the end, she knew they wouldn't agree with her methods but even at the end she still treats them like allies and not enemies.

    That's the thing about Emma, she knows they may never accept her back, but she still sees the X-Men as her allies and she has already shown in Iceman #5 that she still wants to help the X-Men. Emma was in her Black King outfit in Iceman #5 and she was going to help the X-Men, she just wasn't sure about letting Christian go with her because she didn't think he was ready for a battle yet.

    I won't deny that Emma will use any means necessary to win, but she is not the only X-character that is lethal. Lots of X-Men have killed over the years and a lot of them are even more violent than Emma. Heck the X-Men ran a black ops group out of Utopia and that was all Cyclops and Wolverine and Emma was only peripherally involved in what the X-Force team was doing in secret.

    I personally love Emma as a character and I can't wait for her to be on a regular book again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I am going to read anything she is in. I am just keeping my fingers crossed with the recent appearances indicating that she is still operating as a hero (Iceman and Jessica Jones) that this is going to continue going forward into Uncanny 18. I was actually a bit surprised in Iceman #5 where Emma and Christian both jumped in to help the X-Men. Christian Frost really seems super keen to play superhero so I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on a book by the end of the year. Emma and Christian leave the scene after things settle down because Emma doesn't think the X-men want her there.

    I know some people are going to look at any excuse to hate Emma without looking at the entire run of the character. Sure she was emotionally wrecked when Scott died and she went kind of crazy, but you know what she isn't the first character that has happened to over the years. A lot of characters in comics do insane things when their romantic partners die in a tragic way. My impression is that Emma has been trying to rebuild her life since Mothervine, but she still cares about the X-Men a lot more than she lets on.

    She ended up helping teen Jean face the Phoenix, she asked Bobby to help her rescue Christian, she gave the X-Men information when they were looking for the returned adult Jean, she didn't hesitate to help during Infinity War, and she jumped in to help Jessica Jones even more than she was asked because she felt empathy for Jessica's emotional state.

    Emma took out the upper echelon of the Hellfire Club to get them out of the anti-mutant technology game once and for all. Just like Emma said in X-Men black, the Hellfire Club has doing everything they can for years to exacerbate the conflict between mutants and humans, and they profit off the technology that is used to kill mutants. Emma took over the club once and for all so she can force the Hellfire Club to throw all in on defending mutants. Emma was even grateful for the X-Men's help at the end, she knew they wouldn't agree with her methods but even at the end she still treats them like allies and not enemies.

    That's the thing about Emma, she knows they may never accept her back, but she still sees the X-Men as her allies and she has already shown in Iceman #5 that she still wants to help the X-Men. Emma was in her Black King outfit in Iceman #5 and she was going to help the X-Men, she just wasn't sure about letting Christian go with her because she didn't think he was ready for a battle yet.

    I won't deny that Emma will use any means necessary to win, but she is not the only X-character that is lethal. Lots of X-Men have killed over the years and a lot of them are even more violent than Emma. Heck the X-Men ran a black ops group out of Utopia and that was all Cyclops and Wolverine and Emma was only peripherally involved in what the X-Force team was doing in secret.

    I personally love Emma as a character and I can't wait for her to be on a regular book again.
    In fairness, the people who keep bringing up IvX are the people who hated her long before IvX ever happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    In fairness, the people who keep bringing up IvX are the people who hated her long before IvX ever happened.
    Emma hasn't been a villain for years. She is morally grey, but she has been an X-Men ally ever since Generation X with Sean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    Emma hasn't been a villain for years. She is morally grey, but she has been an X-Men ally ever since Generation X with Sean.
    But the people who keep bringing up IvX either:

    1) Hate her for her time as White Queen (usually for torturing Storm)

    2) Hate her for the Morrison affair

    So IvX just gives them a reason to pile on their hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    But the people who keep bringing up IvX either:

    1) Hate her for her time as White Queen (usually for torturing Storm)

    2) Hate her for the Morrison affair

    So IvX just gives them a reason to pile on their hate.
    seems like we cant hold Emma accountable for her actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    seems like we cant hold Emma accountable for her actions
    More like can't let the past go. You don't hold her accountable, you hold her to an entirely different standard because she hurt your favorite character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    Emma hasn't been a villain for years. She is morally grey, but she has been an X-Men ally ever since Generation X with Sean.
    Thats no longer true as she was a villian in IvX and later X-men Blue. She is now back to being morally gray but she had two very recent villianous stints within the past 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Thats no longer true as she was a villian in IvX and later X-men Blue. She is now back to being morally gray but she had two very recent villianous stints within the past 2 years
    Both of which were writing her 110% out of character for the sake of having a villain, and blatantly ignoring the previous 27 years of publication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    More like can't let the past go. You don't hold her accountable, you hold her to an entirely different standard because she hurt your favorite character.
    Emma never faced any consequences for her acts. IvX and x-men blue were recent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    But the people who keep bringing up IvX either:

    1) Hate her for her time as White Queen (usually for torturing Storm)

    2) Hate her for the Morrison affair

    So IvX just gives them a reason to pile on their hate.
    Well at least you and I still love Emma 🤗

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Emma never faced any consequences for her acts. IvX and x-men blue were recent.
    Besides being tortured nearly to death, you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Besides being tortured nearly to death, you mean?
    that happens to most x-men.

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