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I guess the lead writer and producer didn’t know and had to ask if Obi-Wan knew if Anakin was using the name Vader. Yikes.
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How many did Luke kill when he blew up the Death Star? Star Wars hasn't exactly come out with a Jedi Bible that explains their morality.(or have they?) Who's to say how killing people factors in - or in what context? Also, who's to say being able to become a Force Ghost = redemption? I think we infer some kind of redemption because they seem like heavenly angels or whatnot and they seem at peace, but it could just be that Vader learned that discipline (maybe this series will show us how Vader even learned of its existence from Obi-Wan in some way and this starts him practicing in his tank the way Obi-Wan has been) - not that it equals being redeemed in any way.(aside from figuratively)
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You really see destroying a military target the same as wiping out a planet?
Last edited by Kirby101; 06-03-2022 at 06:50 PM.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
Of course it's not the same, but that's what I'm questioning. (I mean, Vader might have seen Alderan as a military target - would that be better?) Divorced from any Judeo-Christian metaphors or similarities does the Force care or judge? Is it moral? I was responding to the notion that Anakin becoming a Force Ghost somehow equaled redemption,(as though he went to Heaven) but who says the Force works that way?
Yup and it made him look like a dimwit. He can sense luke across space in another ship but can't sense his daughter sitting right next to him for years in the same room or in a tiny room while he is doing awful things to her? You stink at the force vader. Even lego star wars made fun of this.Vader found out about Luke in the Star Wars comic from Boba Fett.
I don't think he knew about Leia until RoTJ.
Also, hey lets hide luke at his dads old home with the same name away from vader but change his sisters last name but put his sister with parents who's job is to deal with vader so she will grow up around vader then work and sit right next to him everyday!
He will never find her there!
The problem with retconning is it is hard to make all the pieces fit. None of the Skywalker family saga was there in A New Hope. We know Lucas had a completely different script that evolved into Star Wars. So we see many scenes that are later explained away with various results. In a New Hope, Luke and Leia were not siblings and maybe Vader was Luke's father (It seemed Obi-Wan knew more than he was letting on). But as the story grew over the trilogy, we all learned to live with the inconsistencies.
One thing I always wondered. What did Lucas have in mind when Obi-Wan allowed himself to be struck down by Vader, claiming "I will be more powerful than you can possibly imagine." The finale shows he has become a god-like presence when he talks to Luke, but in ESB he is just a Force ghost and not all-powerful, he actually can do nothing but appear to a Force sensitive person. Now I don't care about the fan explanations for this. But I do wonder what Lucas had in mind. Was there an idea for a Force-God Obi-Wan in future movies?
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
I would say "powerful" in that he'd be a major influence to the one person who would go on to defeat Vader/turn him from the dark side. But then that depends on how much of that story you believe Lucas had planned out when he made Ep. 4.
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Leia's probably too young for Vader to sense anything but he also probably has tunnel-vision while hunting Obi-Wan.
I don't think Vader and Bail interacted that much. I think they interacted more with Tarkin of anyone in the Imperial Chain of Command (I know Tarkin made a surprise visit to Alderaan once).
I know I'm in the minority but Obi Wan is a mixed bag. Not sure how much I like how they're using Vader so far.
+ One thing I'll give Disney credit for, they made Vader scary. He's the boogeyman he should be.
+ I love the power and presence he brings
- Killing military lackeys is one thing, but most of Anakin's Life he protected the innocent. Still not convinced he would kill innocent children so quickly. Especially order 66
- Some his lines were stupid "You made me this way" (No Anakin, you pretty much did that yourself)
- Its really messing with the Canon. I prefer Obi Wan and Vader meeting from Mustifar to a New Hope.
If I was a Disney Writer, I'd have made the series about a lesser famous Jedi Survivor (Quinlan Vos would be my choice.) Nothing is set in stone for his future, his character is almost a blank canvas, and it shouldn't cause too many ripples in canon.
Given their tendency to incorporate Details revealed in the Disney live-action media in their OT titles (with the exception of Mandalorian, strangely enough) as soon as they come out, I'm kind of curious if the events of this series will be mentioned in the Marvel comic series.
For example, shortly after SOLO came out Han had a discussion with Leia in the monthly about his short-lived Imperial pilot/trooper past.
The Dameron family & Holdo have become a major part of the current monthly title.
The current Vader volume has incorporated Ochii and the Exegol stuff from ROS.
So I'm guessing in a coming issue Luke & Leia might have a conversation about their old mutual friend.
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