All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[thwhtGuardian]

The Academy doesn't need to say what Smith did, because there were a lot of witnesses.

Hough didn't commit assault.

There were some silly arguments that the Academy should take away the best actor trophy from Will Smith, but they recognized that the trophy is for the quality of the work, so anything off-set doesn't matter.

This may be where I'm arguing past him. This didn't seem to be an organization that had evidence of clear wrongdoing.

This wasn't relevant to mention before, but I did look up stuff related to the story.

I will note that the New York Times is a reputable organization, and not exactly known for its right-wing bias, so it wouldn't be wrong for someone to only read an article in the Times and post it in a political discussion thread.

However, this was covered elsewhere in the media I follow. It was a topic on the Across the Movie Aisle podcast, where the Republican, Democratic and libertarian commentators agreed modern publishing is a cesspool. I looked at some of the criticism of the article on Twitter, where some people made some provably fake arguments (IE- that the decision to not nominate her was independent of her comments) and posted what they said were the deleted Twitter comments, which I didn't interpret to be particularly outrageous. I didn't see the point to sharing that, as it's possible that there were some different comments that were transphobic (hadn't seen it yet, but it's possible) so it seemed premature to respond to preemptively respond to points people hadn't made yet.

Yes, it is a reputable paper, which is why I said more than once that there was no shame in admitting that you got duped by a one sided article as it's normally fair to assume that its a good source. In this case it wasn't, it was making an issue where there wasn't one as hot headed writer with a history of acting poorly online facing consequences for her latest poor choice of words is pretty much the definition of a nothingburger rather than a newsworthy "controversy".

[Mister Mets]

Yes, it is a reputable paper, which is why I said more than once that there was no shame in admitting that you got duped by a one sided article as it's normally fair to assume that its a good source. In this case it wasn't, it was making an issue where there wasn't one as hot headed writer with a history of acting poorly online facing consequences for her latest poor choice of words is pretty much the definition of a nothingburger rather than a newsworthy "controversy".

I still don't think the Times did anything wrong here.

They did a minor story about a rescinded nomination, which seems fair game for the arts section.

The story did appear to get higher than usual coverage, which further demonstrates the wisdom of publishing the article.

They also published the statement by the co-executive directors of the prize, so they had the opportunity to make their case.

Did not answer the question.

I do NOT want Libs on TiK Tok or Twitter.

I want PROOF this nonsense has happened in a class room not what some stupid Karen THINKS happens.

To be clear, Libs on Tiktok is not what some Karen thinks will happen. It's typically progressive activists saying something extreme. Some of them are teachers, making specific claims about what's going on in their classroom.

For example, a Texas fourth grade teacher claimed that 20 of her 32 students have come out as LGBTQ.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/29/t...bt-pride-week/

This isn't a crazy interpretation by one parent. It is what a teacher said online in order to get kudos.

However, I do understand that a handful of lunatics aren't representative (I'll make a sidenote that there could be a freakout if police officers or custom agents made similarly unpopular right-wing points) so that official documents are more meaningful.

Illinois made some resources available for LGBTQ+ Equity month, and there's stuff parents might be opposed to.

https://sites.google.com/district65....tq-equity-week

For example, preschoolers are reading about Harvey Milk and pride flags. First graders learn about introducing themselves with their preferred pronouns. There are physical education activities involving pride week.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Bruce Willis is quitting acting. Yes, I made that joke too, but he's quitting because he has some disease...aphasia or something that hurts his cognitive abilities. Basically, he's having trouble remembering words and thoughts....pretty nasty stuff.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60934576

That’s too bad. Perhaps it’s time for him to pen his autobiography while he can.

[Mister Mets]

I'll let you know for future reference, if I ask a question I don't intend to be answered I'll go on to immediately answer it myself. Otherwise I genuinely want my questions answered, and if they are loaded it isn't intentional though I cannot promise not to be biased.



Barely. Any counter-commentary was pretty much confined to 2 paragraphs, and the rest was clearly supportive and accepting of everything Rufo presented as gospel when even by then there were multiple reports of his misinformation and lies.



I don't understand any of what you are asking here. What sort of accommodation is there to be had with "That person is Trans, treat them with respect like anyone else."? I'm pretty sure our Justice System frowns in general on the freedom to discriminate against marginalized people. And considering the only laws being made are ones weaponized against Transgender people it seems the money is being wasted on being hateful and investigating people using bathrooms or doctors and parents helping their child come to grips with who they are.



I would have assumed you'd give the name of her opponent if you voted republican, because this is vague enough to mean that you voted for her and I'd like to clarify it. I was asking who you voted for other than Biden after all, specifically to see who will earn your vote.



One of the main difficulties in people adopting (Especially LGBT) is the religious organizations who won't let well balanced adults raise a child in a loving home. I'm not saying everyone who goes to adopt a child is capable, but that capable parents are being rejected due to more discrimination. As for your response to the Fad question it seems you do believe that it is one, though please correct me if I am wrong.



As it was not a loaded question, I'm sure you understand that 1 or 2 athletes is not a dominated sport. This is not a change of meaning, a few dominating in a sport is not a sport dominated by trans athletes.


And if she were dominating, those would all be first and/or second place.



If I'd mentioned that Socialism or Communism actually eased selfishness in people (Hint: It doesn't) then you could have considered it a rant against capitalism and not selfishness and apathy like I've gone on about for several posts now.



An individual's screw ups define them alone, those who choose to defend them (And worse) are causing that to define the party. I'm fine with that standard applied across the board.

I'll keep that in mind about the questions you ask.

My point on accommodations is that it's no longer about treating people equally if you're asking anyone to change their behavior or to subsidize types of spending. It may be a good and important thing, but it's a categorically different situation.

One way to explain it would be that someone can say that they treat trans people equally as they are against taxpayer supported gender-reassignment surgery for trans and cis prisoners. Obviously, the cis prisoners would be less interested in the surgery. But this is something that can be considered worthwhile, but it's not about treating others as equals, because only one group wants it.

I didn't recall whether I voted for Meng or for someone else. Meng won reelection with 67.9%. I had to Google her Republican opponent, and he wasn't even mentioned in her Wikipedia page.

Regarding adoption, it does not appear that gay couples have significant difficulty adopting. Even in the cases involving religious organizations refusing to work with prospective gay parents, they tend to send the couples to other agencies. This is part of why the Supreme Court unanimously voted against Philadelphia in Fulton V Philadelphia.

On the fad question, I think there are some teens for whom it's a fad and some teens for whom it's not. I have no idea what the percentages would be, and that's a question that obviously has policy implications. If it's a fad for two percent of minors who seek services that would be a different concern than if it's a fad for sixty percent.

It appeared that Lia Thomas was the frontrunner in a Division 1 competition, and won. That's all I meant by saying that she dominated.

At the moment, the circumstances that produce a Lia Thomas (a Top 500 athlete transitions while old enough to benefit from male puberty but young enough to compete in college sports) seem rare, so I'd expect these stories to be sporadic rather than be part of every women's sports story.

If you make a comment about capitalism, it's fair game to respond. If I make some potentially controversial aside, I can understand that there may be pushback.

Interesting point on screw-ups and what defines a party. I would think apologies matter, and that for a defense to taint a party, it has to be false. We shouldn't criticize people for saying the truth.

[AnakinFlair]

I actually think he was a top notch comedy actor which is maybe a better indicator of exceptional acting ability than action man roles.

Sad to hear this, of course. Really hope it’s not as extreme as the similar affliction that struck Terry Prachett. Life is darn tough at times.

Hudson Hawk is an underrated gem, and an old favorite of mine.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Why Russian troops are using tree branches for camouflage in Ukraine

Not to be a grammar nazi, but why are people using 'war fighter' and the like?

It's warfare, and soldiers! Lets call it that!

[seismic-2]

Not to be a grammar nazi, but why are people using 'war fighter' and the like?

It's warfare, and soldiers! Lets call it that!

The US Department of Defense consistently uses the term "warfighter" to refer to its troops, and it has done so for about the last 15 years. It's shorter than explicitly saying "soldier, sailor, marine, or airman".

[JCAll]

Bruce Willis is quitting acting. Yes, I made that joke too, but he's quitting because he has some disease...aphasia or something that hurts his cognitive abilities. Basically, he's having trouble remembering words and thoughts....pretty nasty stuff.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60934576

That's terrible, I hate to hear that.

[Gray Lensman]

The US Department of Defense consistently uses the term "warfighter" to refer to its troops, and it has done so for about the last 15 years. It's shorter than explicitly saying "soldier, sailor, marine, or airman".

With interservice rivalries, you don't want to call someone by the term associated with a different branch. Call a marine a soldier and you might get to see someone blow their top, to use the most well known example.

[CSTowle]

Well, I don't think I've seen this here yet:

Trump asks Putin to release any info about Hunter Biden



Jesus Christ....

He's the gift/curse that keeps on giving. Funny to see his supporters try to twist into logic pretzels to justify his actions and speech, not so funny when you realize it's a coin-toss whether he regains the Presidency in a short 2 years.

[JackDaw]

Hudson Hawk is an underrated gem, and an old favorite of mine.

I was thinking of stuff like “Blind Date” and “The Whole Nine Yards”.

I’ve just had a quick look at his filmography…it brought home just how many really enjoyable films he’s been in.

I’ve never seen Hudson Hawk, will seek it out.

[JackDaw]

He's the gift/curse that keeps on giving. Funny to see his supporters try to twist into logic pretzels to justify his actions and speech, not so funny when you realize it's a coin-toss whether he regains the Presidency in a short 2 years.

So say Putin releases a ton of dirt on Hunter B in next few days: could any sane person place any reliance on its accuracy? Wouldn’t a big chunk of the Donald’s supporters worry that their guy was so chummy with Putin that Putin was happy to help out?

When a few years ago, I saw stuff on these boards about the extremity of some of the Donald’s beliefs, I did not believe the claims could be true. My view was that if the claims were true, he could never have won enough votes to become President.

Obviously, I was wrong….and now I am just completely, totally baffled why so many people are happy to vote for him. Yes..I’m aware of stuff like “he’s attractive to people because he makes racism, greed, and selfishness acceptable”. But who on Earth wants all their worst traits empowered??

[WestPhillyPunisher]

So say Putin releases a ton of dirt on Hunter B in next few days: could any sane person place any reliance on its accuracy? Wouldn’t a big chunk of the Donald’s supporters worry that their guy was so chummy with Putin that Putin was happy to help out?

When a few years ago, I saw stuff on these boards about the extremity of some of the Donald’s beliefs, I did not believe the claims could be true. My view was that if the claims were true, he could never have won enough votes to become President.

Obviously, I was wrong….and now I am just completely, totally baffled why so many people are happy to vote for him. Yes..I’m aware of stuff like “he’s attractive to people because he makes racism, greed, and selfishness acceptable”. But who on Earth wants all their worst traits empowered??

You'd be surprised just how many people like being able to openly express their hate and ugliness after being forced to keep it under wraps for most of their lives. THAT'S why they love Trump who gave them free rein to be their worst selves.

[Zelena]

You'd be surprised just how many people like being able to openly express their hate and ugliness after being forced to keep it under wraps for most of their lives. THAT'S why they love Trump who gave them free rein to be their worst selves.

Expressing hate and ugliness on Internet is not enough?

[JackDaw]

You'd be surprised just how many people like being able to openly express their hate and ugliness after being forced to keep it under wraps for most of their lives. THAT'S why they love Trump who gave them free rein to be their worst selves.

Surprised does not quite cover it. It is more along the lines of astounded, amazed.

Yes, we are all a mix of good and bad, but always thought large majority of us would prefer to be better people, rather than worse people.

Certainly I really dislike leaders that bring out the worst in me, they make me less happy!