Yeah! That concept is overrated. The idea that he needs others to stay human.
Anyways, As long as he lives among us he would make relationships and bonds. That's just natural regardless of pa, ma, lois... Etc. I mean, he would meet other people . If its as being superman then it's that way. If it's as clark it's that way.It's inevitable. So, he can't give up relationships. It's not possible Unless, he becomes a recluse and absolutely doesn't talk to people . Yeah! A reclusive superman? Is that what people are advocating for? I don't think that would work out. The guy would need to save people. Wouldn't he?
That's great. Thanks a million dude.
As I said, I love Lois, so I hated using the word toxic, cause it is a bit... harsh. But I think it's just one of those traits of characters that you don't really notice unless you look deeper.And back in the day Lois would absolutely put herself in danger so Clark had to rescue her, often as part of some crazy scheme to either prove Superman was Clark or force Superman into marrying her. It's remarkable how many steps backwards Lois took during the early-mid Silver Age; just as feminism was starting to catch up with her, too.
In modern context, Lois doesn't do this nearly so often. She was getting into trouble long before Superman showed up, and wasn't about to stop for his sake. Perhaps on some subconscious level she's a tad more reckless than necessary because she knows she's got Clark to back her up, but generally I don't think she's portrayed as some reckless person taking dumb risks because she knows her boyfriend will pull her ass out of the fire for her. Hell, at this point Lois doesn't *need* Clark to save her; she'll steal a Bat mech from Bruce Wayne and kick ass on her own, or pull a New Gods megarod out of her purse and go straight space gangsta on a mf.
I wouldn't call it toxic by any means (modern versions). Especially at this point in the canon. If a person can't rely on her spouse to have her back when she needs it then it's no partnership at all. And when Lois is in deep enough trouble that she needs Clark's help, that's something serious enough Superman should be dealing with anyway. All about the priorities, yknow? Clark can save the guy having a heart attack in Chicago, or he can save his wife and in the process take down Intergang before they sell a ton of alien super weapons to the Penguin.
Nevertheless, I don't mind Superman choosing his wife, but I would just like to see at least one instance where he faces a dilemma where he has to choose someone over her.
I had an issue that was like the 'lost years' between Superboy and Superman when he was in college or something. He gave a buddy a signal watch to call him in emergencies. Well, one time he was dealing with some massive crisis, i don't remember what... Volcano maybe? Well his friend saw a building on fire and hit the watch then ran in to help some people... Superboy/man heard it, saw what was happening, but couldn't get to him till it was too late.
As for Lois, my biggest problem is the whole... attitude about how capable she is. Smallville used to have me tearing my hair out whenever Lois or Lana would start bragging about capable they are and they don't need a hero or a man to 'protect' them... Meanwhile he's LITERALLY saved their lives 50 times each. Not just inconvienced... but they would be DEAD if he hadn't been there. All their special army training and all their positive attitude and iron will means exactly jack to a sniper or a bomb.
You really can't have a strong feminist attitude AND need to get rescued a hundred times by the hero... you can't have both.
Well, don't thank me until I actually come across one. I've been reading these books since Clark died and I have *a lot* of comics, and while I know this topic has been addressed a few times, coming across one is a lot like finding a needle in a haystack.
Oh totally. I find that Clark and his cast are among the most subtle characters in comics. They have very deep, multi-faceted personalities but it's rarely in your face, you gotta dig and think about it to pick up on stuff.As I said, I love Lois, so I hated using the word toxic, cause it is a bit... harsh. But I think it's just one of those traits of characters that you don't really notice unless you look deeper.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Your post reminds me of the Lois Lane story that Kurt Busiek did in Astro City. In that story, the Superman pastiche of that story grows frustrated and losing hope in humanity because of Lois keep pestering him with throwing herself in danger and trying to prove that Clark is Superman. In the end of that story that Superman's pastiche left the earth once and for all.
Yes and that's because of Johns, so the lesson from that is if your CCO is writing your book, then your book is reboot-proof! So, next time you want your book to be free from reboot let's ask Jim Lee to write and draw your book. I'm sure your book will be save from that damnation /s