Honestly when it comes to context it always came across that other Disney films like Pirates of the Caribbean and even their Star Wars had more to offer than their MCU films and the only reasonable explanation I can give to this is that from Disney point of veiw. MCU are comics and comics means kid friendly, toys, colours, fun, jokes, light hearted tone and atmosphere and all the other jazzes, whereas star wars and Pirates of the Caribbean are more in the genre of fantasy, so on paper and in all the stereotypical narrative, Fantasy has always been held as a higher genre with heavier context compared to comics. This is not true of course, however it is myth that Disney brought to reality.
I mean with Harley, she comes from a really dark place to begin with. I mean the Joker is a dark character. Marvel has similar characters, there is probably no one as horrible/evil as the red skull, but Marvel killed him off early. So in that respect they managed to avoid him. LOL. Even if he is a great character.
I am going to disagree, I think Last Jedi was pretty dark compared to any MCU film and The Force Awakens was trying to be A new Hope.
The VFX, Sound Mixing, Make up and Cinematography of their Star Wars films are very different to the MCU.
I am not sure I have ever meet any person, who complained a lot about Disney star wars as a film in terms of art, at least not with episode 8 and 9, what they just don't like is the story, plot of the films and characters.
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Hmm...Punisher has been the star of three feature length movies and a Netflix series. We can argue about how good or bad those things were, but I'm not sure what you mean about him not reaching his "potential"...
As far as Kingpin being "regulated" to Netflix...those Netflix Marvel shows were mostly well received ( except for Iron Fist and even that did well enuff to get a 2nd season). Vincent D'onofrio did a great job with the role in my opinion. Just because a movie is released in theatres, that doesn't make it automatically worthy of great status than something on TV or a streaming service.
I think a lot of stuff simply comes down to what a director wants to do.
Guys like Christopher Nolan basically makes PG-13 movies with very serious subject matter. Certainly more than movies like Deadpool or BoP or any of the X-men movies.
A PG-13 could cover a whole lot of ground without graphic violence, nudity or swearing. Marvel has done stuff like that with Black Panther and Black Widow.
There’s a reason why BP got acclaim for themes over the X-men movies. What really hurt that series was the sheer amount of nonsense in-between from the shoddy, rushed production of X-men 3 to X-men Origins Wolverine (complete with studio interference) and even more recently with Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. Fox didn’t handle that franchise as well as they could.
Marvel shouldn’t have any problem with handling the themes of the X-men and still have the movies entertaining within a PG-13 rating. Fox pretty much messed the mainline franchise.
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Re: Star Wars.
IMO the darkest Star Wars movies was Revenge of the Sith.
From the murder of kids to the amount of limbs cut off and it’s depressing ending, I left the theatre feeling rather down.
Oh yes, how could I forget about Rogue One. Also I don't really like to say this but Disney Star Wars film don't look like animations. I am sorry but they don't. Marvel films have a animation styled style and I cannot see anyone who has recently even seen their latest Shang CHI not honestly see were why I am saying this. Not to spoil but the 3rd arc of the movie is just an animated film.