Marvel Cancels Upcoming Milo Manara Variants

[Thor-Ul]

Well, this is the start of a very long progress process, isnt it ?.



Well, Wolverine is a male charácter; so i dont that anyone would care about that.

If females readers would be offended by the cover of Manara, why can I be offended if I feel than that is an missuse of male image/body?
Are we not equal?

[Baron Samedi]

Be offended as much as you want my friend.

Not sure that a lot of people are going to give a damn about wolvie naked though.

[Frank]

I don't think that Marvel not using the covers means Manara isn't being paid for the work he was commissioned to do. Don't Marvel and DC have backlogs of stories and art they've bought but never used, like the Drew Johnson-drawn Wonder Woman story that just preceded the nu-52 and was finished but not published? Johnson still got paid, and I imagine Manara did as well.

And I bet Marvel still uses the covers in some form at some point down the line, even if it's a "Manara does Women of the Marvel Universe" sort of book.

[AcesX1X]

yes but his reputation is being tarnished with this public withdrawal which is my worry.

[Frank]

Is his reputation really tarnished? If anything, I think his US profile is raised. The people like Manara aren't going to dislike him because of the Spider-Woman cover, and the people who don't like his art simply already know it. I think this notice has probably drawn more people who were unaware of his art to it and just repelled those who'd never be interested in it in the first place.

[He-Kal]

Check out these offending variants. We wont get to buy. As I said before it had less to do with the Marvel variant and more to with his adult artwork. had he not had that history there would have been less controversy.

Sorry, but that Thor pic is not great--the handle on his hammer looks like it is bending.

[AcesX1X]

Is his reputation really tarnished? If anything, I think his US profile is raised. The people like Manara aren't going to dislike him because of the Spider-Woman cover, and the people who don't like his art simply already know it. I think this notice has probably drawn more people who were unaware of his art to it and just repelled those who'd never be interested in it in the first place.

i hope not but this is the internet, you never know. all publicity is not always good publicity and i think this is hurtful for the artist.

[shamus]

Well, this means nothing for Manara, he still is a very well respected artist in Europe. Maybe he never was the right artist to make superheroes.

Actually just as many people in Europe think the man is disgusting for his depictions of rape.

[Brave Sir Robin]

I had/have no interest in Spider-Woman whatsoever, but if I can get my hands on that variant I'm buying it. I totally support that guy's right to draw the character however he sees fit...

He doesn't have a "right" to draw a character as he sees fit, if that character is the intellectual property of someone else and that someone else chooses to have him draw it in certain paramters. Marvel ownw the characters, they are paying him for particular work. He doesn't just get to do anything he wants if Marvel objects.

His Spider Woman cover is termed "adult." I feel it should be termed "adolescent male."

[shamus]

Manara has a nice drawing style but he is well known for his sexually explicit (porno)graphic novels that depict women being raped and otherwise sexually manipulated. Many in his homeland of Italy think of him as "schifoso". Why would Marvel want to be associated with this?

[neohuey89]

He doesn't have a "right" to draw a character as he sees fit, if that character is the intellectual property of someone else and that someone else chooses to have him draw it in certain paramters. Marvel ownw the characters, they are paying him for particular work. He doesn't just get to do anything he wants if Marvel objects.

His Spider Woman cover is termed "adult." I feel it should be termed "adolescent male."

Marvel didn't object to it. I think that was his point.

[Brave Sir Robin]

Wow. Marvel caving in to stupid censorship.

Amazing what a little bit of media frenzy can do.

Censorship is the act of a government to suppress free speech. All Marvel is doing is showing good judgement and taste.

[jhfrail]

Honestly, I never saw it as anything other than her coming up over the edge, but that's just me. Frank Miller's Detective Comics variant a while back was much more sexualized, and as there wasn't even a pretense of a background, you could hardly claim otherwise.

Still, people are hypersensitive to women and sexuality in comics. Men, not so much. It's ok for a man with an impossible physique to be in a skintight costume. But a woman? That's sexist!

[shamus]

His reputation is being tarnished? Have you ever read any of his graphic novels? His reputation is not Disney like as he graphically depicts children engaged in sexual activity. For more on his reputation: http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/t...se-comics.html

[Nisus]

To be fair, the Thor 2# variant was originally solicited to Robinson; they changed to Manara only two weeks ago. Maybe Manara had schedule issues.