Examples of Pre-Flashpoint Canon Reasserting Itself in the DC Universe

[upgrayedd]

soooooo...... Flash #50.......

[Drakeon]

Flash #50. A very awesome return.

[phantom1592]

Wasn't Barry Allen's original costume returned to continuity too?

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Jon Kent had a poster for the classic New Teen Titans on his wall, with Cyborg as a member.

[Myskin]

I find it somehow funny that literally every villain (with the only exception of Sivana) appearing in Doomsday Clock is visually (and in some cases, personality-wise) identical to their pre-Flashpoint version: the Riddler, Giganta, Dr Poison, Dr Psycho and so on.

[mr_crisp]

Wasn't Barry Allen's original costume returned to continuity too?

Have they finally gotten rid of the stupid lines on his costume?

[phantom1592]

Have they finally gotten rid of the stupid lines on his costume?

Not so much, but Zoom pulled out a classic ring and out popped a version of Barry's classic original costume without the lines that he put on. So while Barry's current costume is still the overly stylized 'busy' costume... they now acknowledge that he DID have an original costume sometime in the past that is definitely pre-flashpoint.

[Green Goblin of Sector 2814]

So, it'd appear as though the Ryan Sook variants for Heroes in Crisis reveal that the Death of Superman, Knightfall, and Wonder Woman's killing of Maxwell Lord are all firmly back in continuity.

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So, it'd appear as though the Ryan Sook variants for Heroes in Crisis reveal that the Death of Superman, Knightfall, and Wonder Woman's killing of Maxwell Lord are all firmly back in continuity.

Wonder Woman's past history has been frustratingly vague for far too long. Hopefully, some kind of restoration of the highlights of her past history will coming soon. Nothing too detailed. It's been a giant question mark for years now and Rucka's attempt to transition her from Azzerello's version didn't really accomplish much aside from spending twelve issues to say "None of that stuff happened"

[Green Goblin of Sector 2814]

Wonder Woman's past history has been frustratingly vague for far too long. Hopefully, some kind of restoration of the highlights of her past history will coming soon. Nothing too detailed. It's been a giant question mark for years now and Rucka's attempt to transition her from Azzerello's version didn't really accomplish much aside from spending twelve issues to say "None of that stuff happened"

LOL. True. Though, I was definitely surprised to see all of the old costumes on full display. Now with Batman and Superman back in trunks, how long until you think Diana is back in something closer to her iconic costume?

[Frontier]

LOL. True. Though, I was definitely surprised to see all of the old costumes on full display. Now with Batman and Superman back in trunks, how long until you think Diana is back in something closer to her iconic costume?

I imagine not that soon with how much her movie costume has caught on.

[byrd156]

So, it'd appear as though the Ryan Sook variants for Heroes in Crisis reveal that the Death of Superman, Knightfall, and Wonder Woman's killing of Maxwell Lord are all firmly back in continuity.

I love all the questions this brings up now. Was Azrael Batman and for how long? Where are all the 90s heroes like Bloodwyn who were in the death of Superman? Did Maxwell Lord kill Ted leading to Wondy killing him, etc. etc.

[Harpsikord]

LOL. True. Though, I was definitely surprised to see all of the old costumes on full display. Now with Batman and Superman back in trunks, how long until you think Diana is back in something closer to her iconic costume?

Yeah, I don't think we'll be getting this any time soon, or at all, seeing as how the current costume is already incredibly similar aesthetically to the classic look without being a full on bathing suit.

[Holt]

Scott Snyder's Justice League run has referenced the events of Cosmic Odyssey.

Cyborg needs to be retconned out of the JL as a founding member and return as a founding member of the Titans. I'd much rather John Henry Irons established as a founding member and/or replacement of Vic on the JL. He's a fantastic character that's criminally underused and has tremendous potential as the tech/armored hero. I also love the idea that Steel is someone inspired by Superman to become a hero who eventually takes his place alongside Superman.

That would require Superman to have died before the Justice League was formed... I don't care for THAT idea. Giving back Vic's past only to take away John's isn't the answer.

I would rather they quit screwing around with the past. 7 heroes who happen to look white (sometimes) despite the fact that only 3 are actually human isn't the end of the world. If they want PoC in the league... put them in, but stop trying to pretend that they were there all the time.

Honestly, I'd just leave the founding team as it was and then continue with Cyborg and John Stewart as part of the team in the present. Who exactly was there to found the League at the beginning of the team is more or less irrelevant since it was five years ago and obviously, the team has changed its membership since then. Since they're not actively writing new stories about the original team as it existed five years ago, I don't really see the point.

Just put Cyborg back into his history with the Titans, and if they want him involved with the League, have him as a former Titan that eventually "graduated" to the big time.

[Frontier]

Honestly, I'd just leave the founding team as it was and then continue with Cyborg and John Stewart as part of the team in the present. Who exactly was there to found the League at the beginning of the team is more or less irrelevant since it was five years ago and obviously, the team has changed its membership since then. Since they're not actively writing new stories about the original team as it existed five years ago, I don't really see the point.

Just put Cyborg back into his history with the Titans, and if they want him involved with the League, have him as a former Titan that eventually "graduated" to the big time.

Yeah, I don't think they're going to really dive into who actually founded the Justice League anytime soon, especially with Martian Manhunter being back and his importance to the League being re-emphasized.

Although I also don't expect they'll explicitly refer to Cyborg as a Founder again anytime soon.