All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[babyblob]

Twitter has permanently suspended Trump’s account.



Better late than never, I guess...

I wonder how long before he sets up a fake account. Like tomorrow morning Abe Froman the Sausage King of Chicago is going to have a lot to say about stolen elections, Antifa, and Mike Pence being a tratior.

[Robotman]

This right here is another reason he must be removed from office!

From Ben Costiloe's Twitter:

For those wondering if it’s worth impeaching him this time, it means he:
1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life
2) loses his 1 million dollar/year travel allowance
3) loses lifetime full secret service detail
4) loses his ability to run in 2024

[Mister Mets]

I wonder how long before he sets up a fake account. Like tomorrow morning Abe Froman the Sausage King of Chicago is going to have a lot to say about stolen elections, Antifa, and Mike Pence being a tratior.

There are some decent jokes on that.

https://twitter.com/brianjayjones/st...92737143959555

https://twitter.com/barronjohn1946/s...94753786200064

[Kirby101]

Who ever makes a movie about this insurrection, they better not let Michael Bay direct.

[babyblob]

This right here is another reason he must be removed from office!

From Ben Costiloe's Twitter:

For those wondering if it’s worth impeaching him this time, it means he:
1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life
2) loses his 1 million dollar/year travel allowance
3) loses lifetime full secret service detail
4) loses his ability to run in 2024

Its great to think about. but with so many GOP senators against it. Saying that impeachment goes to far. it will never pass.

[DrNewGod]

I think there are other ways or other paths to consider. Bringing back the draft, or insisting on mandatory military service as in Israel doesn't mean you don't have political polarization anymore.

The presence of the military in American culture and society is definitely worth addressing. Obviously the idea of America as Republic and Empire at the same time, coupled with the military not having a consensual good war or consensually approved intervention since World War 2 is a cultural problem. The last big consensual moment for the military was Seal Team 6 whacking Bin Laden on Obama's command. People approved of that far more than Afghanistan and Iraq, or for that matter the whacking of Soleimani.

So the role of the military in American society and culture has changed. Americans don't like to see themselves as an Empire, and they like to think of themselves as good guys, whereas the job of the military is indeed to uphold the Empire abroad and spread American interests and uphold American values as the best.

Yes, we do need to redefine the US' view of its forces. From WWI on, its proponents have gotten away with framing its mission as "defending freedom" rather than "imposing will." Its officers know better.

As to the draft, I'm of two minds. There's a definite downside to conditioning every able-bodied youth in the country, and putting them at old, greedy, ruthless politicians' beck and call. There's also a definite upside - at least, in a democratic republic - to making every parent in the nation keenly interested in what a nation does with its forces (assuming, of course, that the state allows no privileged exemptions [yah, I know how naive it is]).

[Robotman]

Its great to think about. but with so many GOP senators against it. Saying that impeachment goes to far. it will never pass.

Sadly, you're right. They need 2/3 and there's still no way they would get that.

[Wildling]

Who ever makes a movie about this insurrection, they better not let Michael Bay direct.

To not get that far yet, I just wonder how awkward will be watching the next Purge movie that was delayed to this year.

[Iron Maiden]

This right here is another reason he must be removed from office!

From Ben Costiloe's Twitter:

For those wondering if it’s worth impeaching him this time, it means he:
1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life
2) loses his 1 million dollar/year travel allowance
3) loses lifetime full secret service detail
4) loses his ability to run in 2024

Trump will probably blow up the Secret Service budget like he's done during his time in office with his frequent trips back and forth between his golf courses and Mar a Lago.

[Iron Maiden]

Sadly, you're right. They need 2/3 and there's still no way they would get that.

Well, maybe it might be worth it anyway if he gets to be the first President impeached twice.

[babyblob]

Well, maybe it might be worth it anyway if he gets to be the first President impeached twice.

At this moment he is already the worst president in history. A 2nd impeachment just to say he was impeached twice means nothing unless he is removed from office.

[Wildling]

Well, maybe it might be worth it anyway if he gets to be the first President impeached twice.

What other terrible firsts could he possibly unlock at this point? Is not going to his successor's inauguration a first too?

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Who ever makes a movie about this insurrection, they better not let Michael Bay direct.

To reiterate something I said when Trump lost...I want a moratorium on movies about the last 4 years for at least a decade.

I want as much distance between 9/11 and the first fictional treatments of that, at a minimum. I don't want a movie about this insurrection for a long while. That said, if there were to be a movie, I'd expect it more Paul Greengrass' speed (director of United 93, and the one about the Norwegian massacre) who does these multi-character takes and recreations of historical incidents. So you can have stories about the Capitol Hill staff, about the police and secretary, and then the politicians. I feel pretty firmly, that the story should be told entirely from the perspective of the besieged Capitol denizens than from the attackers. So when they do the bit where Babbit gets shot, you tell it from the perspective of the agent and not from Babbit. I expect Tom Hanks (with whom Greengrass has worked twice) to play Schumer. Schumer can be the general protagonist of the Democrat Party dealing with McConnell, Pelosi, and the rest. He has an arc, he starts the day finding out he's become Senate Majority Leader and walks in on a total good mood and an upbeat nature, and then things go south. But overall this has to be a multi-character story.

Yes, we do need to redefine the US' view of its forces. From WWI on, its proponents have gotten away with framing its mission as "defending freedom" rather than "imposing will." Its officers know better.

As to the draft, I'm of two minds. There's a definite downside to conditioning every able-bodied youth in the country, and putting them at old, greedy, ruthless politicians' beck and call. There's also a definite upside - at least, in a democratic republic - to making every parent in the nation keenly interested in what a nation does with its forces (assuming, of course, that the state allows no privileged exemptions [yah, I know how naive it is]).

Look how far the current POTUS got with his bonespurs.

[numberthirty]

I am deeply impressed by how deeply Antifa has gone undercover within the GOP and the MAGA movement.

At this rate, they need to start planning for when Antifa sends the T-800 into the past to go after their future mothers.

[AnakinFlair]

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