"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
If someone has the audacity to greenlight this, sure, it'd be pretty wizard, even more so if it actually manages to be good somehow lol.
"- YER A SPIDER PUNY PARKER!
- I'm a what?!"
That's a good question that I never wondered before lol.
I'd say maybe Ultimate is slightly worse, but only because Unlimited has a more fitting tone with Spidey, but its setting is still so bizarre with Spidey that Ultimate isn't that much worse.
Honestly, shouldn't Unlimited be a 2099 cartoon instead? I remember that city looked more futuristic, even if it had animal people around...
A part of me shuddered in terror at this suggestion, mostly Spidey being kept in high school, forever, and since high school animes like protagonists with 0 personality for the sake of that dumbass self insertion... Yeah, I seriously don't want anything like that for Spidey, Peter without personality sounds worse than Ultimate cartoon Peter.Maybe we'll get a Japanese Spider-Man cartoon soon lol.
Although it is possible we wouldn't get the horror show I suggested, since Japan has that giant robot tv show, and a manga that made that Spidey suffer so much he might as well be Daredevil, so yeah, maybe I'm too fearful of the generic anime shit being used in Spidey lol.
Hulk also had a beard
A lot of Unlimited feel very futuristic and Spidey's costume having a cape really evocates 2099 to me, so maybe it really should have been a Miguel cartoon.
My suggestion was more among the lines of the "Emissary From Hell" show . Speaking of manga, i read some of the Spider-Man one and man is really batshit insane lol.
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
Supposedly Marvel Animation is now a skeleton crew of itself that's just producing the preschool cartoon. I wouldn't expect any major Marvel Animation news any time soon, especially since it's not like they announced a new Avengers cartoon to replace Assemble when it ended even though most people would probably expect something.
The future of Marvel cartoons is probably in the hand of Feige right now.
I think it was supposed to be in the second phase of it's development before they shifted to the Counter-Earth setting.
I think Spidey would be perfect for the anime treatment. He's popular in Japan, he's shown up in all the Avengers anime's, he's been voiced by anime VA's...I wouldn't really be all that worried about his personality because there are plenty of anime protagonists with personality and you can't really adapt the character without it.A part of me shuddered in terror at this suggestion, mostly Spidey being kept in high school, forever, and since high school animes like protagonists with 0 personality for the sake of that dumbass self insertion... Yeah, I seriously don't want anything like that for Spidey, Peter without personality sounds worse than Ultimate cartoon Peter.
Although it is possible we wouldn't get the horror show I suggested, since Japan has that giant robot tv show, and a manga that made that Spidey suffer so much he might as well be Daredevil, so yeah, maybe I'm too fearful of the generic anime shit being used in Spidey lol.
I wacthed an scene from that Marvel anime (i assume that it is, haven't take the time to watch it) when Spider-Man talks about being a hero that i actually found very fitting with his characther...granted that VA could really use some work, but it felt very Spider-Man to me.
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
I hear that he had shit like a dream sequence where he imagined himself raping or killing a woman randomly, and even got rid of the costume, so yeah, that manga Spidey sounds clinically insane.
Hopefully they wait for a while before trying anything.
That's just a weird decision.I think it was supposed to be in the second phase of it's development before they shifted to the Counter-Earth setting.
I guess, it's just that anime plays so fucking safe when it comes to what they produce mostly, not unlike Hollywood, that a completely bland adaptation that misses his point doesn't sound far fetched for me.I think Spidey would be perfect for the anime treatment. He's popular in Japan, he's shown up in all the Avengers anime's, he's been voiced by anime VA's...I wouldn't really be all that worried about his personality because there are plenty of anime protagonists with personality and you can't really adapt the character without it.
Reminds me, I watched some scenes from the Japanese dub of PS4 Spidey, and, man... I'm not sure if Sony really cared about selling the game in Japan, because the dub sounds like a generic anime, not much passion, specially from Otto's voice actor, instead of sounding like a broken, unhinged, desperate man who became evil, he just sounds like a generic everyday villain, which, could be more fitting for some interpretations of Otto, but definitely not this one:
Even if you didn't hear the english dub, something still looks off about Otto, he's screaming like an usual villain, but his facial expressions tell of how he's feeling there.
Now, I'm not saying this bad, it just doesn't stand out, it's just average, and that sucks, really hoped it'd be on the English dub's level.
Even generic anime sound like they have more emotion than English ones, so we’ll have to agree to disagree here.
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"So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."
Surprised they still haven't tried X-Gene Spidey to be fair, honestly sounds obvious to try that, maybe that's why they didn't lol.
Honestly don't see how the Japanese one is better in this case, when you take out any subtlety from the scene and just have characters screaming like a generic anime villains even when their facial expressions don't exactly show those are their emotions, yeah, that sounds like half assing at least.
I'm sad at a lack of Marvel Animation but if it means they come back with actual quality productions, it would be worth it.
I think they didn't want it to be compared to Batman Beyond.That's just a weird decision.
I disagree. It really just depends on what you're watching and, ultimately, on the studio, staff, and how they adapt the source material.I guess, it's just that anime plays so fucking safe when it comes to what they produce mostly, not unlike Hollywood, that a completely bland adaptation that misses his point doesn't sound far fetched for me.
It sounds solid to me. Different, since Otto sounds a little more harsher and malevolent, but still just as deranged.Reminds me, I watched some scenes from the Japanese dub of PS4 Spidey, and, man... I'm not sure if Sony really cared about selling the game in Japan, because the dub sounds like a generic anime, not much passion, specially from Otto's voice actor, instead of sounding like a broken, unhinged, desperate man who became evil, he just sounds like a generic everyday villain, which, could be more fitting for some interpretations of Otto, but definitely not this one:
Even if you didn't hear the english dub, something still looks off about Otto, he's screaming like an usual villain, but his facial expressions tell of how he's feeling there.
Now, I'm not saying this bad, it just doesn't stand out, it's just average, and that sucks, really hoped it'd be on the English dub's level.
I keep expecting Peter to yell out "Sunlight Yellow Overdrive" (since he's voiced by Jonathan Joestar's Japanese VA).
I mean Unlimited and Beyond came out in the same year, so they'd have to change the story and setting before Beyond was actually out, considering how long it takes to make episodes, so I have my doubts that the already known Spider-Man 2099 would have to change to avoid being compared to the newcome Batman Beyond.
True, but with anime industry playing so safe, I'd be worried anyways.I disagree. It really just depends on what you're watching and, ultimately, on the studio, staff, and how they adapt the source material.
I'm fine with him sounding more evil, specially since he's talking to Norman, the man Otto hates the most, if there's any time for him to put that poisonous tone in his voice, this would be it, but I just don't like how straight forward evil he sounds, without the subtlety that the scene requires.It sounds solid to me. Different, since Otto sounds a little more harsher and malevolent, but still just as deranged.
Damn, wasn't aware of that, wonder if the dub makes some reference to that.I keep expecting Peter to yell out "Sunlight Yellow Overdrive" (since he's voiced by Jonathan Joestar's Japanese VA).
Speaking of references, apparently with the hologram suit power, think you get that from Ben's costume? In the Japanese dub, one of the lines the holograms says is from that Japanese Spidey TV show, probably the "Emissary from hell" one, that's nice lol.
Could've been a production thing when they got wind of what Beyond would be about.
Again, though, it just depends what you're watching. Like, there are probably 3-5 "safe" shows a season but also shows that don't and definitely go beyond the medium in some respects.True, but with anime industry playing so safe, I'd be worried anyways.
I think the subtlety is in how off his rocker he sounds. He sounds like a hurt and angry man who is definitely not in a right state of mind.I'm fine with him sounding more evil, specially since he's talking to Norman, the man Otto hates the most, if there's any time for him to put that poisonous tone in his voice, this would be it, but I just don't like how straight forward evil he sounds, without the subtlety that the scene requires.
That's pretty awesome .Damn, wasn't aware of that, wonder if the dub makes some reference to that.
Speaking of references, apparently with the hologram suit power, think you get that from Ben's costume? In the Japanese dub, one of the lines the holograms says is from that Japanese Spidey TV show, probably the "Emissary from hell" one, that's nice lol.