Right. In fact, their "death" is what sparked this thread in the first place. Considering there is a movie in the works, it seemed odd than the marvel honchos just authorized the dead of a (honestly) minor characters to be killed. So this death seems more like a tabula rasa to relauch the franchise and updating the characters, like it was done with inhumans and everything than came after Infinity and Inhumanity, than was the excuse to relauch the Inhumans as a profitable multimedia franchise. Avengers 4 I suspect is the first step to relauch the characters. But instead a big event,they are using the regular series to present (again) the characters.
Also the eternals are used to "die" and ressurrect. In the Gaiman series, Ikaris died and resurrected without too much trauma. And there he was reduced to atoms.
Exactly. Kirby never conceived the Eternals to share adventures with the main Marvel universe, but to work in their own reality. Roy Thomas was the one who introduced them to the prime universe, because he liked the Celestials idea vs Thor, something, I read, Kirby didn't like at all. The contradictions with the existence of the greek gods and others pantheons has been a difficult point to explain but most writers simply choice not to use the eternals at all.
The point of this thread in fact. If the eternals are going to be used, it is possible than many changes will be done to adapt them to the MCU and how these changes will be adopted by the comic characters. Because these changes will be adapted. Just look how even having being a failure, the Inhumans series affected the comics by making Black Bolt communicating by hand language. And don't forget the changes in Starlord, Iron-Man, Scarlet Witch quicksilver and so many more.
For example: hypotetically, what if the director of the Eternals movie would like to include Hercules in the lineup and makes him an eternal too? After all Hercules is a popular Marvel character and the Eternals are inspired in the greek mythology (among others).Would be logical inside the MCU context. But what if in the comics, following this use, they choice to retcon Hercules into an Eternal? That is the kind of choices than could happen.
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"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
Exactly. Also, somebody saw Sersi around?
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Was she among the defuncted eternals? If she is not around the fallen, maybe she will start her own search for her people. I have read than she will be the main character of the movie.
Still I just hope than Marvel is not going on the route of Sersi searching for a "new" batch of just born Eternals. They tried this with inhumans and failed.
Marvel can't make the same mistake twice in a row, right?
"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
Well with the Eternals I suspect the movie will be much closer to the comics, whereas with the Inhumans they were blatantly trying to make mutant-like characters for the benefit of the MCU. With Marvel most likely having the X-Men again soon, there's no need to try that with the Eternals.
People like the X-Men for their characters and stories. The Inhumans were never meant to replace characters like Wolverine and Phoenix. They were already known to be a species that fought against humans who attacked them many times. They didn't try to make them mutant-like, they've always been mutant-like. If they would have made an Inhumans movie, I'm sure it would have been about Attilan and the Avengers. Nuhuman stories aren't like the Legacy virus, House of M, the Dark Phoenix Saga, etc.
Technically, not just the Greek pantheon, but all pantheons. The Eternals -- and their cousins the Deviants -- were thought to be either the actual gods themselves, or were in fact the individuals whose deeds were credited to gods by mistake. To your point, the confusion may be annoying, but it's no different than what we see with the Asgardians. For the longest time there was a discussion as to whether Odin, Thor, Loki, etc., were the actual Norse Gods, or just immigrants who came in and appropriated their mythological namesakes and origins.
The Eternals existing in the MCU would actually be fairly consistent with the debate across the Thor films about whether the Asgardians are really celestial beings or just super advanced aliens.
I'd like to think that the viewing public is smart enough to tell the difference between Inhumans and Eternals. Look no further than their origins. At least to my mind anyway, there is a world of difference when you say an existing tribe of early man was experimented on by another mortal, albeit highly advanced alien race as a reflection of their military industrial complex to produce the Inhumans on one hand, while on the other you have immortal beings called Celestials, created by the cosmos (much in the same way that angels were supposedly created by the heavens), who experimented on an anthropomorphic species of pre-mankind to determine evolutionary progressive sustainability and worthiness. And if that's not clear enough, well, you double down and tell them that the Eternals of Earth by virtue of their own endeavors, unwittingly unlocked the key to cosmic energy, which courses through all of them making them more like the mythological gods AND their own creators. If after all of that they're still confused, just point to Thanos and tell them that he's an Eternal. Everyone by now knows who he is. (I doubt you can find anyone in the general public who knows anything about Maximus, Medusa, Agon, Karnak, Triton, Lockjaw or even Black Bolt. I don't care how many TV series they get.)
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