I'm glad that he wants to make an impact. I wouldn't want a writer who just wants to write static characters and is scared to do too much. I don't know which character you're referencing, but I would rather read that story than one where she does what she always has done, we learn nothing new and there's no advancement. I understand that some fans would rather everything stay mostly the same, I'm just not one of those fans.
It seems like most fan reaction isn't about the actual change, but whether they like the change. So if Bendis, say, kills Luthor, someone who hates Luthor won't feel like he changed too much. Someone who likes Luthor will. Bendis did the same thing in both cases, changed the same amount, but one fan will think it's dynamic while the other fan will feel he went too far.
Bendis' dialogue is one of my favorite things about him. I get that some people feel like everyone talks the same, and I can see that up to a point, but I like that style of dialogue so it doesn't bother me.
The hypocritical thing is that every single author adds to the overall story, it's just when they add things someone likes it's ok but when they don't like it they're going too far. I'm not sure where the idea came from that there is some sort of creative ceiling, that we want big bold ideas but not TOO big and bold. We wouldn't want them to not fit with a story that was published decades ago and set three universes back.
I want good stores and continuity concerns secondary also. In my experience most posters are the opposite, they care very deeply that not too much is changed and there is usually a period they would like each character to remain in forever.
That Doom panel was bad. That X-Men panel is fine, not seeing what the problem is there.
"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
I didn't take any real offense when I read that and still don't, because it's just comics, but... come on.
So if you're not familiar with Marvel, Doom speaks nothing like that, and if he did there was no reason to have him bind Carol, leader of this powerful and competent version of the Avengers, and call her a "fat whore." While Bagley slides in a butt shot, because she's both so unappealing and also worth objectifying (not on Bendis, just a general wonky scene unlike the Superman titles right now). That's good and well worse than how Jurgens or Tomasi treat their heroines and at some point it's just a spiteful denial.
Of course, it's kinda weird to take some of the worst dialogue from a completely different title when considering a new writer. That's like fearing Lois will catch J'onn in a psychic affair with Clark because Grant Morrison is writing.
Bendis has a very large catalogue of pages where people essentially just say the same words in repetitive panels with minimal rearrangement and maybe a few question marks to mask it. Once you notice it, you might not read without noticing it.
Expect a big promotional poster for the Bendis run
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/02...promo-posters/
Oh stop it. Tomasi and Jurgens were fine, and they got me back into the books...so much for the "low bar" as you claim. As far as I'm concerned, they raised the bar higher than it'd been in years.
What he did to the X-Men was worse than what he made them say.
Or has enough taste and common sense to point out b.s and awful writing when they see it, rather than like the change because it's "cool" for "cool"'s sake.
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I understand the difference. We just define those things differently, it seems like, and put different value on the previous continuity.
Second point.. I agree, that can happen. When it seems like fans find some fault with EVERY change, though, it feels like they dislike change in general, regardless of how it's handled.
I meant regarding the current runs, definitely didn't mean to imply ever because I know no writer is immune to coming from a weird place with their writing. Makes me both morbidly curious and suspicious of what happens when editors read scenes like that, detached from the writer's head space.