They are defiantly speaking of fiction and not "real world magic"
And I'm pretty sure they are too, it's like the Last Jedi... not a fan... but there is not light or dark there is just a force and, a way to track people through hyper space...
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They are defiantly speaking of fiction and not "real world magic"
And I'm pretty sure they are too, it's like the Last Jedi... not a fan... but there is not light or dark there is just a force and, a way to track people through hyper space...
Last edited by Moon Ronin; 09-25-2018 at 08:25 AM.
Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting
IMO, that's bad world building. One of the things I admire about The Harry Dresden novels is their attention to the idea that magic is a refined art, almost a science of its own (Dragonlance had some of that too). The Wheel of Time had a sort of balance to that, in the idea that affinity for The One Power was an inborn trait, but it required training and discipline to truly master (unless you happened to be a reincarnation).
Vader needed to place a tracker on the Millennium Falcon in A New Hope because it was such an old trick, and in The Empire Strikes Back the rebel fleet all jumped in random directions so that the Empire couldn't follow them to the rally point, plus in Disney canon Tarkin developed the hyperspace tracking tech that was used in the Last Jedi, there is no way the resistance could have not known about it.
Yeah, but that's not advanced technology. This is doing it without placing a tracker somewhere. That's not at all tracking a ship through Hyperspace. That's just following a homing beacon.
No such thing is stated in the movie....and in The Empire Strikes Back the rebel fleet all jumped in random directions so that the Empire couldn't follow them to the rally point...
Not quite... a think tank called the Tarkin Initiative developed the theoretical science behind it, but they never managed to make it actually work....plus in Disney canon Tarkin developed the hyperspace tracking tech that was used in the Last Jedi, there is no way the resistance could have not known about it.
It was the First Order, Hux specifically, who cracked the tech.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperspace_tracker
Last edited by Carabas; 09-25-2018 at 07:32 PM.
They're both the same thing.
They only look different depending on your perspective.
Nevertheless, the point remains. Science and technology as well as magic are only as good as the people using it. Take the development of gunpowder. It can kill people or save people's lives. Splitting the atom has destroyed whole cities, but it also powers whole nations. How we've come upon a lot of medical knowledge involved unspeakable cruelty to unconsenting human test subjects.
Knowledge, science, and technology are all pretty neat, but neutral. It's how we obtain and use that knowledge that makes it good or bad. And in that respect, it's morally no different than magic.
You obviously didn't click on the link.
The old Empire didn't have anything other than that file because they couldn't turn the theory into actual working tech. We have actual real life files on many scientific advances we can't quite actually do yet.
And it obviously wasn't the only copy of the file, considering the First Order continued the research.