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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Here you go. I need to collect all the evidence and present it in the first post.
    1. Claremont "thought" in The X-Men Companion.
    2. Storm and Yukio is something that "I never really got into. I mean, I had my own thoughts, but I never really got into it."


    Do I really need to point out that "shoulda", "coulda", "woulda" -- directly translates to "I didn't do it!"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    That's the whole point. If you say "I never really got into it.", you are saying "It was a possibility that never went anywhere."
    Claremont is the only first part who implied she was with Yukio. Current Marvel writer Frank Tieri built off from Claremont's work and confirmed it. I strongly assume you didn't read Frank Tieri's tweets that were posted near the beginning of this thread?

    It seriously astounds me how you folks keep jumping through hoops trying to come up with arguments against the fact that Storm is bisexual. Which she is. Build a bridge and get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Initiative Cascada View Post
    Claremont is the only first part who implied she was with Yukio.
    If you said "Never really got into it.", there is no implication. You are talking about things that never happened.

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    As for Tieri, his comment is based on what Claremont wrote. Which Claremont clearly said "Never got into..." saying one way or the other. You cannot confirm what is left up in the air.

    He is trying to create a pattern that does not begin where he thinks it does.

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    Storm is bisexual. I have no problems with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariel0079 View Post
    Storm is bisexual. I have no problems with it.
    I agree but you need to prepare a dossier for this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariel0079 View Post
    Storm is bisexual. I have no problems with it.
    I have zero problem with the possibility. That said, it hasn't really been established so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    If you said "Never really got into it.", there is no implication. You are talking about things that never happened.
    True.

    It never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by just-my-2cents View Post
    I agree but you need to prepare a dossier for this thread.
    I guess we've seen everything. I understand why some are convinced she is bi.
    Last edited by DDD; 08-03-2015 at 06:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    That's the whole point. If you say "I never really got into it.", you are saying "It was a possibility that never went anywhere."
    That means there is something to get into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arya View Post
    That means there is something to get into.
    Yes, a possibility. Almost every definition of the word involves something not being established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Yes, a possibility. Almost every definition of the word involves something not being established.
    Established enough for Tieri to say yes and have her make out with a woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arya View Post
    Established enough for Tieri to say yes and have her make out with a woman.
    He is saying "Yes" based on misunderstanding what Claremont actually said. Has Claremont come out to agree with what Tieri believes he said?

    If no, why?

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    Actually... He might not even misunderstand. He may not even know that Claremont said that, and is just going with what he wants to believe even if it never happened.

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    I think the courtroom exhibit A brigade need to realize that Claremont did the best he could with subtext at the time with characters like Storm, Destiny, Mystique etc because the Comics Code Authority forbade any on-panel homosexual relationships at the time, as well as Marvel's quite disgusting "No gays in the Marvel Universe" period, spearheaded by Jim Shooter in the 1980's. So a universe has aliens, mutants, eternals, gods etc but anything other than heterosexual is too wild? They couldn't use any obvious language so subtext is all that's there. I think in a way to completely ignore it in some way supports Jim Shooters ban and it's effect, which is really saddening.
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