Dark does not mean deep.
Mutants aren't aliens with their psychology, they're just people with super-powers who have their nation. They feel injury and death like we do, Melody felt that sword plunge into her and she literally died from the injuries inflincted on her. Mutants are not perfect people on Krakatoa, they're still have squabbles and are mentally hurt by things. The "reasons" are ridiculous and show the X-men aren't on their game mentally for discussions like this, post- Krakatoa. They're not into sacrificial rituals as a group. I'm intrigued by where this is going since it's not bad writing, it's good writing that has holes that are being set up to be exposed at a later date. The Crucible is a huge warning sign with blinking rights that the X-men are compromised somehow and even they're noticing it.
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She feels pain temporaly, during the Crucible. The pain and trauma that come with it can be washed away by telepaths and empaths, it's been stated on paper. It's a sort of rite of passage with fighting in it which results in death which, in this new society they're building, is something that they do not fear anymore.
They have forgotten very quickly the society where they were born, then.
As far I can judge, this idea that the mutants are not human is very recent in the comics.
It was only the fact of 'racist humans'… and that wasn't accepted by the mutants.
Anyway, for the pro-Krakoa, the mutants are human when they lose their temper and not human when it suits them…
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
A "rite of passage" Apocalypse created, which is completely unnecessary to the process - as I explained. Your argument hinges on the Crucible being an intrinsic part of how mutants are reborn, when we both know that's not true. Had the X-men been in the right headspace they have told him to get out on that alone. The X-men as a group don't condone murdering people for rituals, but they're not the X-men anymore as we know them.
Is Neanderthal man not human? In the past, different kinds of humanity existed at the same time.
In the Marvel universe, two 'humans' can create a mutant. So I wouldn't say that they are species that different.
More, using a scientific term to base an ideology is rather deceitful in my opinion.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
Now you're getting it, and some rites of passage aren't as bad as others. Activities linked to cult like behaviour and who rely on killing the person fits into the problematic category for obvious reasons. Especially when the killing part can be done without pain or in front of an audience so an ancient self styled deity can kill people with immunity from the law. The Crucible is not the same as having birthday party or retiring.
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The idea is precisely that in a society without real death, how they see death will gradually evolve from how we see it.
It's normal that is weird for us.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
Too much demand for those special Krakoan medicines because of the Coronavirus!?