All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[babyblob]

For some people that is a platform - so that is choice not corruption and cheating just the way Open Borders, Socialism and Abortion on demand are other people's choice.
I get it, you don't like those choices but in a democracy that is the what you have to put up with. I might not agree with someone who wants to give illegal immigrants $450,000 for their pain and suffering but if that passes then it does. Just like you should get over someone who thinks Pence was a traitor. Jerks all around but we got to find a way to live with each other... or not.

I dont agree with the 450,000 bucks either. But I also dont agree with trying to kill our elected vice president. I hate Pence but no one has the right to try and kill him for doing the job he was elected to do because of an orange monster's lies to satisfy his ego.

[Reviresco]

Another roadblock was just hit. A group of moderates have demanded to see a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score for the reconciliation bill. Jake Sherman just reported that this is not going to happen until Thanksgiving week.

And from The Hill:
"The demands from a handful of centrist lawmakers for a full Congressional Budget Office analysis of the social spending package is jeopardizing House Democratic leaders’ plans to hold a vote Friday on the legislation. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) acknowledged that a CBO score on the bill — which spans more than 2,000 pages — would not be ready on Friday."

It's not a road block, it's normal to have a CBO score. Yes, it means the vote may be delayed, but anyone that actually wants to read a 2000 page bill and understand it, probably welcomes the time. Many of these recent Dem deadlines, are arbitrary, usual to meet some other deadline, like voting or Biden's trip, -- or to get things moving.

[JB]

It's not a road block, it's normal to have a CBO score. Yes, it means the vote may be delayed, but anyone that actually wants to read a 2000 page bill and understand it, probably welcomes the time. Many of these recent Dem deadlines, are arbitrary, usual to meet some other deadline, like voting or Biden's trip, -- or to get things moving.

I personally prefer they take their time but posters are saying they need to hurry up, that's where my road block comment came from. In direct response to the call that they need to hurry.

[Kid Devil]

I dont agree with the 450,000 bucks either. But I also dont agree with trying to kill our elected vice president. I hate Pence but no one has the right to try and kill him for doing the job he was elected to do because of an orange monster's lies to satisfy his ego.

They did not try to kill him. Those "violent insurrectionists" didn't even kill a cop like BLM rioters. The cops that died were from suicide or natural complications afterwords.

[Jack Dracula]

The other party is changing rapidly, just ask the first Black woman to win a statewide office in Virginia's history, or the first Latino to become VA's attorney general, both Republicans. We have to be honest about the changes happening and more importantly, figure out why.

A few people of color in a auditorium of white people aren’t an indication change. Look at the issues they support and realize they’re simply wolves in sheep’s clothing.

[Panfoot]

They did not try to kill him. Those "violent insurrectionists" didn't even kill a cop like BLM rioters. The cops that died were from suicide or natural complications afterwords.

Oh hey look a terrorist sympathizer!

[JB]

A few people of color in a auditorium of white people aren’t an indication change. Look at the issues they support and realize they’re simply wolves in sheep’s clothing.

The number of minority Republican registrations is increasing. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. We can keep our heads in the sand about it or find out why there's such an increase. Go look at what happened in Miami-Dade in the 2020 election. Clinton won the county by 29 percentage points. Biden won it by 7 points and more people turned out to vote. That county ate up a lot of the gains Biden had elsewhere in the state.

[Kid Devil]

Oh hey look a terrorist sympathizer!

More like: Oh hey look a truth and fact speaker.

Not all facts align with the agenda and even though what happened was bad and wrong you are over inflating it for your moral superiority complex.

[babyblob]

They did not try to kill him. Those "violent insurrectionists" didn't even kill a cop like BLM rioters. The cops that died were from suicide or natural complications afterwords.

I guess wondering around the capital with assault rifles and zip ties means you have peaceful intentions. Oh and the hang Mike Pence chants while attempting to build a gallows in the lawn were just a prank. And the officers who took their own life from the trauma of being attacked? Thats fine the people who stormed the capital and attacked them and caused that trauma get a pass they wernt to blame? Got it. I forgot the only real victim was that poor woman who was trying to break onto the house floor, a place she had no right being by the way and was shot by that big bully cop. lets build a statue for her.

Thanks for letting me know not to take anything you say seriously.

[Kid Devil]

I guess wondering around the capital with assault rifles and zip ties means you have peaceful intentions. Oh and the hang Mike Pence chants while attempting to build a gallows in the lawn were just a prank. And the officers who took their own life from the trauma of being attacked? Thats fine the people who stormed the capital and attacked them and caused that trauma get a pass they wernt to blame? Got it. I forgot the only real victim was that poor woman who was trying to break onto the house floor, a place she had no right being by the way and was shot by that big bully cop. lets build a statue for her.

Thanks for letting me know not to take anything you say seriously.

They did not use them to kill but they had those guns because they are big 2nd amendment supporters and guns represent their values.

Also, I would not call that woman a victim. She was with the mob but entering the capitol was wrong.

[Panfoot]

I guess wondering around the capital with assault rifles and zip ties means you have peaceful intentions. Oh and the hang Mike Pence chants while attempting to build a gallows in the lawn were just a prank. And the officers who took their own life from the trauma of being attacked? Thats fine the people who stormed the capital and attacked them and caused that trauma get a pass they wernt to blame? Got it. I forgot the only real victim was that poor woman who was trying to break onto the house floor, a place she had no right being by the way and was shot by that big bully cop. lets build a statue for her.

Thanks for letting me know not to take anything you say seriously.

That says it all really.

[Jack Dracula]

Actually, Mr. Mueller's investigation did mentioned the trump tower meeting. So why did trump walk away without anything happening to him? How many times was he questioned under oath? Not once, because the republicans protected him from being under oath. All they ended up doing was giving him a piece of paper with questions to answer. And don't forget, Mr. Mueller said he isn't exonerating trump.

Mueller and the FBIs role in the situation was to investigate, report their findings, and make a recommendation. They did so and found evidence of criminal activity. They can’t do anymore than that because they have to remain apolitical.
People need to study the basic rules of these things before they bitch online.

[Jack Dracula]

They did not use them to kill but they had those guns because they are big 2nd amendment supporters and guns represent their values.

Also, I would not call that woman a victim. She was with the mob but entering the capitol was wrong.

A Jan 6th apologist. Wonderful.

[Xheight]

I dont agree with the 450,000 bucks either. But I also dont agree with trying to kill our elected vice president. I hate Pence but no one has the right to try and kill him for doing the job he was elected to do because of an orange monster's lies to satisfy his ego.

Who's talking about a right to kill him - let's not pretend protests don't sometimes turn into riots either. You are doing a ton of editorializing and mashing some facts in the process. It was never established whether Pence could have stopped the count. There has never been a ruling on that unprecedented option. That is/was part of Trump's never ending appeal 'doing the unprecedented'.

[Xheight]

A Jan 6th apologist. Wonderful.

Yes, it is isn't so the witch trials might have an end.