Morrison is not great with women, no. They also did a pretty poor job with Wonder Woman.
I think part of it is that they get very much in their heads about certain aspects and that cerebral focus makes it hard sometimes for them to just write women as people. I still like Morrison a lot and have a ton of respect for them but, yeah, women are never their strong suit. I’ve sort of just accepted it about Morrison. Their intentions are good.
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This is where I'm at too. They are my favorite writer for Superman and Batman, but for Wonder Woman it's a mixed bag. They have a few set archetypes they work well with for female characters, but it's generally surface level compared to what they do for the male characters. Like Catwoman, Batwoman, Oracle etc. were all treated well when they showed up in Batman, but they had small roles compared to the men. Lois is underutilized even if there is clear respect/affection for her. On the other hand, I love their Jean Grey (death aside, though that's on Marvel editorial for making it stick so long), Etta Candy and Crazy Jane, and Wonder Woman was....still very odd in the last volume of Earth One, but I dug her way more. And they make some great female villains who may not be especially deep as characters, but are scary and fun: Cassandra Nova, Glorianna Tenebrae, and Countess Belzebeth.
At least they're not Joss "woke bae" Whedon, getting high off his own "feminist" gas.
I have not read the Earth One Wonder Woman, but from what I have heard it isn't great. Klaus is a great take on a Superman type character, but the "Mrs. Klaus" there does have some of the same issues you see with their other work. Still, a great "Superman" type of story.
Good intentions but issues with execution are a good way to put it. I think if they weren't beholden to New 52 editorial they would have had a better shot at setting up a New 52 Lois that worked. As things stands they played up things as much as they could there and I can read that run without getting too annoyed.
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Sounds good. I have no problem trusting in Morrison, he's never let me down before.
He did, for five out of eighty-three years and even then his beginning was still based on an existing template that included his feelings for Lois Lane, albeit never realised because they gave her a random boyfriend. While things changed with the writers that came after Morrison, I don't doubt if Morrison would have finished the story (whatever that would have been) with Lois. His love life would have looked differently to what we got in the end. It doesn't really matter now any way.
The curse of Future State continues. If it wasn’t for Morrison as the writer, I would have zero interest in this. But I’ll be picking this up to see what he can do with this concept. It’s really weird to have a Superman clone in Apollo on the team. Also the Black Racer from Future State was one of the most boring characters I’ve ever read. Grant has his work cut out for him.
I think most of Morrisons' Superman stuff can be read in it's own mini-continuity anyways, so I imagine this will apply here also.
Anyways color me interested with Ultra-Humanite. This is looking like some good Supes content.
Morrison's EO series isn't great, though I've warmed to it somewhat, but I give them some credit that they felt they did poorly by her in JL and FC so I give them credit for that over a lot of others.
So like a poster said above; good motivations if not the best execution.
It's a cool hook for a miniseries. I'll give it a shot.
I don't think Morrison was bothered by editorial interference. I always thought the problem was that editorial told him do what he wants, but then they told guys like George Perez that they had to follow Morrison's blueprint, without actually letting Perez know what Morrison was doing and what he had to follow.
If anything, if any Superman writers of the time had little right or reason to complain, it was Morrison.