Which MCU Characters Are Most Faithful To Their Sources?

[Bunch of Coconuts]

You may be mistaken faithful as a 100% adaption of the source. Let me just come out and say, that is an impossible achievement. there is a difference between that and the characterisation itself.

Evolution Wanda is the best portrayal of Wanda because it is the only portrayal of wanda that has covered all sides to her personality we have seen in the comics.

WATX Wanda and Movie Wanda have failed to do so.

Comic Wanda was never “generic goth chick with daddy issues”. Sorry.

[lowfyr]

You may be mistaken faithful as a 100% adaption of the source. Let me just come out and say, that is an impossible achievement. there is a difference between that and the characterisation itself.

Evolution Wanda is the best portrayal of Wanda because it is the only portrayal of wanda that has covered all sides to her personality we have seen in the comics.

WATX Wanda and Movie Wanda have failed to do so.

Sorry but you managed to contradict your own point in the same post.

And your first sentence here makes your other posts that are mostly of "How dare they change anything in a movie" or "they made a joke there, it is crap" esp. ironic.

But to say that "Evolution Wanda is the best portrayal of Wanda because it is the only portrayal of wanda that has covered all sides to her personality we have seen in the comics" is one of the most funny things on the net at least for today.

[Gaelforce]

Okay, folks, this is a discussion about what people think are the best adaptations of comic characters to the big screen (MCU universe)

This is *not* another thread to slam the MCU as a whole or to declare that the MCU has been 'Disneyfied'. There's a whole other thread for that.

Stick to the topic and be nice about it, please

[90'sCartoonMan]

Uncle Ben exists in MCU.

He exists, sure, but we don't know the extent of the influence he's had on who Peter Parker is. Aunt May is more like the Ultimate version, an Aunt May who was not only never on the verge of having a heart attack because of the kinds of danger Peter was in but also was able to accept and encourage him being Spider-Man. Since I don't know this Uncle Ben that was part of Peter's life, it feels like we're missing something from Spider-Man as a character.

X-men Evolution was really bad about completely changing characters into things they weren't. Like Goth Rogue, teenage Forge from the 60s, well adjusted teenage videogamer Arcade, the entire Brotherhood ...

That felt like they were trying to update the characters. For all we know, in another decade or so, some MCU characters will feel like poor attempts to be hip and modern.

[SpiderClops]

He exists, sure, but we don't know the extent of the influence he's had on who Peter Parker is. Aunt May is more like the Ultimate version, an Aunt May who was not only never on the verge of having a heart attack because of the kinds of danger Peter was in but also was able to accept and encourage him being Spider-Man. Since I don't know this Uncle Ben that was part of Peter's life, it feels like we're missing something from Spider-Man as a character.

"When you can do the things I can, but you don't. And then bad things happen. They happen because of you."

-Peter Parker to Tony Stark in Captain America: Civil War.

I don't need anything more than that to know how much Uncle Ben has affected his life.

[90'sCartoonMan]

"When you can do the things I can, but you don't. And then bad things happen. They happen because of you."

-Peter Parker to Tony Stark in Captain America: Civil War.

I don't need anything more than that to know how much Uncle Ben has affected his life.

Sure, because we know Spider-Man, his backstory, and have probably seen many different interpretations of him and can fill in the blanks, that line is very effective. Thinking about the MCU as someone's first (and possibly the one that leaves the biggest impression) exposure to Spider-Man, I'd prefer them to know more about Uncle Ben, if not actually see him on screen so we can see Tom Holland play off this Uncle Ben actor.

I almost included lack of J. Jonah Jameson as well (because I've always thought Jameson is one of the most important supporting characters in Peter's life), but given what we've seen of him, I'm optimistic about the way he's handled. Who knows? Maybe we'll see the MCU Spider-Man's full origin in the future. Despite people saying they don't need Uncle Ben again after the Raimi and Amazing movies, I think it's a disservice to this version of the character not to have an MCU version of him.

[basbash99]

Gunn's GotG is very faithful to the DnA Guardians.

I disagree. Drax in particular is way different from the DnA depiction. Peter Quill was more of world weary ex-superhero forced into a leadership role than a happy go-lucky Han Solo wannabe that was in a state of arrested adolescence. Rocket wasn't so much "angry new york/jersey guy" in terms of personality. And let's not get into Mantis.

Mind you, i love both GotG movies but the members do vary considerably from their comic counterparts imo.

[DrNewGod]

...So then I said screw it and voted for Vision because he's still a synthezoid created by Ultron who joins the Avengers and discovers his humanity. Feels like they hit the major beats with him.

Vision doesn't necessarily deviate the most from the source of any of the MCU characters, but he's one of those that I think deviates the most. He spends almost no time in the films struggling with who and what he is, which was one of his major 616 beats.

[Castle]

I disagree. Drax in particular is way different from the DnA depiction. Peter Quill was more of world weary ex-superhero forced into a leadership role than a happy go-lucky Han Solo wannabe that was in a state of arrested adolescence. Rocket wasn't so much "angry new york/jersey guy" in terms of personality. And let's not get into Mantis.

Mind you, i love both GotG movies but the members do vary considerably from their comic counterparts imo.

GOTG quarried my mind, After the film was out I had to learn more about the series and download some comics online to see if marvel has done anything so far off. It turns out they hadn't. We were talking of 2nd tier comic characters in another thread but prior to the movies I think GOTG were more like 4 tier characters to Iron Man and Thor that were 2nd tier characters.

This could be the very reason there is nothing about the comics that is faithful to the movies. I think to a limited extent, it worked for GOTG but for such an Iconic character like Spiderman and his life with Uncle Ben, it doesn't.

[Midvillian1322]

GOTG quarried my mind, After the film was out I had to learn more about the series and download some comics online to see if marvel has done anything so far off. It turns out they hadn't. We were talking of 2nd tier comic characters in another thread but prior to the movies I think GOTG were more like 4 tier characters to Iron Man and Thor that were 2nd tier characters.

This could be the very reason there is nothing about the comics that is faithful to the movies. I think to a limited extent, it worked for GOTG but for such an Iconic character like Spiderman and his life with Uncle Ben, it doesn't.

Yet Spidermans as big as ever. So what you meant to say was it doesn't work for you. Clearly for the majority of the movie going audience it worked just fine.

[Castle]

Yet Spidermans as big as ever. So what you meant to say was it doesn't work for you. Clearly for the majority of the movie going audience it worked just fine.

Its about faithful to the source, Uncle Ben and Spiderman are interchangeable, You can't tell a batman film without not having to an extent the presence of what his parents death meant. you cant tell an xmen story without what separates or binds mutants and humans together and you definitely cant tell a superman story without him leaving kypton to come to earth. Spiderman is missing that foundation where all his stories were born.

Clearly for the majority of the movie going audience it worked just fine.

But the majority will tell you how much MCU Spiderman is the least most faithful, which is what the OP asked.

[DrNewGod]

...But the majority will tell you how much MCU Spiderman is the least most faithful, which is what the OP asked.

No more so than Scarlet Witch. So, no, not necessarily least faithful.

[Castle]

No more so than Scarlet Witch. So, no, not necessarily least faithful.

I can give Scarlet Witch a Pass. MCU could not use mutants or give her that back story, though later changed in the comics and a big mistake that marvel made because you should never change your decades source material for a future movie.

The issue with scarlet witch is, she has not really had a story since Age of Ultron and the little promos we have seen from Wandavision seems very flaky of the character to the source. I am not demanding Netflix Sabrina the teenage witch but I dont want nickelodeons 90s sabrina either, which seems to be the direction MCU is taking the character.

I kind of change my mind though not fully, the most faithful to the source material of scarlet witch was X-Men TAS but we only saw her once unlike Evoluton where she was a major character.

As for Spiderman, compared to other sources, MCU is the least faithful. the most faithful would be the Amazing Spiderman movies. This is not the same as scarlet witch, where MCU could not say anything about mutants, MCU had access to Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy and they should not have made Aunt May young.

[Gray Lensman]

Its about faithful to the source, Uncle Ben and Spiderman are interchangeable, You can't tell a batman film without not having to an extent the presence of what his parents death meant. you cant tell an xmen story without what separates or binds mutants and humans together and you definitely cant tell a superman story without him leaving kypton to come to earth. Spiderman is missing that foundation where all his stories were born.



But the majority will tell you how much MCU Spiderman is the least most faithful, which is what the OP asked.

The origin having been told twice in 2 semi-recent films does make telling it a third time a bit redundant, especially when one of the biggest complaints about superhero films is always having to make an origin film - although they could use a couple more lines calling back to Uncle Ben tp remind us without having to have 30 or so minutes of a movie taken up by it yet again. Still, this Spidey quips, unlike the Raimi Spider-Man, so his characterization seems more in line with the comics. I haven't seen anything with Garfield's Spidey so I can't comment on him.

Batman gets the origin retold since it has been relatively long between takes - by the time the next Batman film comes out it will have been longer between that film and Batman Begins than it was between the latter film and Burton's first Batman film. Meanwhile the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film is only 3 years older than Nolan's Batman, yet we are on our third live action version now.

[Castle]

The origin having been told twice in 2 semi-recent films does make telling it a third time a bit redundant, especially when one of the biggest complaints about superhero films is always having to make an origin film - although they could use a couple more lines calling back to Uncle Ben tp remind us without having to have 30 or so minutes of a movie taken up by it yet again. Still, this Spidey quips, unlike the Raimi Spider-Man, so his characterization seems more in line with the comics. I haven't seen anything with Garfield's Spidey so I can't comment on him.

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I never asked for origins stories. there needed to be some major quick flash back or strong presence that uncle ben's soul was still there. Its missing in the MCU. more so than ever, the source does not make Spiderman career goals about Avengers or the marvel universe. There is a reason, Spiderman is maybe the only character in the MCU that has his own authentic universe and this came from the source. You don't need the MCU or other marvel comic sources to enjoy Spiderman.

. Still, this Spidey quips, unlike the Raimi Spider-Man, so his characterization seems more in line with the comics. I haven't seen anything with Garfield's Spidey so I can't comment on him.

Raimi Spiderman is the best interpretation of the character down to the quips. Raimi quips was not done to look too kid friendly like Holland's quips and Garfield quips were too teen angst and bullyish. Raimi quips had the edge of perfect sarcasm. Garfield, though was the one that followed the source more closely but nowhere 100% faithfully.

Batman gets the origin retold since it has been relatively long between takes - by the time the next Batman film comes out it will have been longer between that film and Batman Begins than it was between the latter film and Burton's first Batman film. Meanwhile the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film is only 3 years older than Nolan's Batman, yet we are on our third live action version now.

Batman gets flash backs. Batman Begins, Batman and Robin and Dawn of Justice used Flash backs. they were not 100% origins films.