All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[4saken1]

Meanwhile, in 'lies about elections are a real danger to innocent people'...

https://twitter.com/HoustonChron/sta...76190139367428

But, yeah, sure, we have to continue to humor people like this.

Yes, it is truly frightening that the vast majority of the idiots who believe this with every fiber of their being are also the ones who tend to own several firearms.

[shooshoomanjoe]

controversy or just more intolerance of political pluralism. I wouldn't be surprised if the Teacher's union tried to strip him of certification. 出る釘は打たれる

So what is it with the right's hatred of unions? What's wrong about an organization that fights so employees can receive higher pay, better benefits and representation?

[BeastieRunner]

Like in 2016, the vast majority of fraudulent votes are coming from registered Rs and/or for Rs.

[Kirby101]

Like in 2016, the vast majority of fraudulent votes are coming from registered Rs and/or for Rs.

That's because they believe in Power, not Democracy.

[seismic-2]

That's because they believe in Power, not Democracy.

That certainly describes the "Stop the Steal" folks. Donald Trump was complaining about election fraud even while the votes were still being counted. This shows that "fraud" was just another way of saying "outcome we don't like". However, if you claim it's "fraud", then Congress can overturn the election results, because a claim of fraud is sufficient for them to do that, right? It's just as good as actual fraud, when your only motive is to stay in power no matter what.

[Malvolio]

So what is it with the right's hatred of unions? What's wrong about an organization that fights so employees can receive higher pay, better benefits and representation?

They think we should all be rugged individualists, each fighting for higher pay, better benefits and representation individually, instead of together as a union.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

That certainly describes the "Stop the Steal" folks. Donald Trump was complaining about election fraud even while the votes were still being counted. This shows that "fraud" was just another way of saying "outcome we don't like". However, if you claim it's "fraud", then Congress can overturn the election results, because a claim of fraud is sufficient for them to do that, right? It's just as good as actual fraud, when your only motive is to stay in power no matter what.

I've mentioned this previously, but Trump was bitching in 2016 about how that election could be stolen from him before the votes were counted. Given his inability to accept defeat, he was looking for an excuse to avoid admitting, even to himself that he had lost fair and square....only he hadn't. However, if Trump had lost to Hillary Clinton, there wouldn't have been any stampede at the Capitol Building in early January 2017, no mouth foaming hordes of knuckledraggers yelling "Stop the steal!" because he wouldn't have had that insane cult following that propped him up like he was the Golden Calf.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Opinion: Manchin’s effort to kill the expanded child tax credit is getting more absurd

Manchin already killed BBB. The Democrats already signaled they are punting it to next year. Which effectively means it’s done.

[Jack Dracula]

In Trump country, a willingness to set aside politics as Biden visits

Some weird mental gymnastics going on there.

[Xheight]

So what is it with the right's hatred of unions? What's wrong about an organization that fights so employees can receive higher pay, better benefits and representation?

It isn't the Unionism it is the lockstep ideology that goes with it.

[babyblob]

It isn't the Unionism it is the lockstep ideology that goes with it.

yea Fair pay, better hours, a safe work space, medical benefits, Sick and family leave, I can really see how reasonable people foam at the mouth and get super pissed at that. I mean WTF are these workers thinking?

[CaptainEurope]

He’ll file an appeal, this will just keep going and nothing will come of it.

That is not how this works. Appeal options are limited.

[Xheight]

I hope you and babyblob recognize that I don't believe Trump about this, or about most stuff. "Big if true" is a sarcastic response to outlandish claims.

If Trump had the balls to be interviewed by someone critical, it'd be fun to challenge him on his claim. It's understandable that he doesn't want to make a premature announcement, but to reassure his supporters that there's a major report coming soon, he should be challenged to write down what's in the report and who is responsible for it, seal the paper and hand it to someone who could be trusted to hold on to it for a few months (October 2022 seems like a fair time to release it.) It would have to be someone trusted by Trump folks not to leak the news early and by Trump critics to not to change the report to help Trump later. Someone like Joe Rogan may fit the bill.

The presumption here is that Trump was ever going to or could be a technocratic politician versed in the minutia and complications of policy and structure. He wasn't elected to be versed in the details of legislation or economics but to make the executive decisions. That's why there were all these comparisons to Andrew Jackson when he was elected and who I can't imagine having the foolishness to be tripped up by a reporter and made to look foolish about something he considers inconsequential.

[Xheight]

yea Fair pay, better hours, a safe work space, medical benefits, Sick and family leave, I can really see how reasonable people foam at the mouth and get super pissed at that. I mean WTF are these workers thinking?

More like marx and CRT https://www.americanexperiment.org/t...f-all-members/

[shooshoomanjoe]

More like marx and CRT https://www.americanexperiment.org/t...f-all-members/

Marxism, really? I find it comical how easy it is to manipulate the right with the red scare.