Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[marhawkman]

Honest question what was Mutant X about, I have vague memories but even for the nineties why Alex thrust into an alternate reality? Was it ever followed up in Alex's development?

Yeah, he was lost in a parallel reality and trying to figure out how to make it a better place. It was a very interesting take because of how it played up the "road not taken" aspect of how characters were different from the main U.

[Alan2099]

Honest question what was Mutant X about, I have vague memories but even for the nineties why Alex thrust into an alternate reality? Was it ever followed up in Alex's development?

Late in X-factor's run there were some people from Bishop's time added to the group for reasons I can't remember and didn't really care about at the time either. (X-Factor got really bad towards the end once they decided to add Shard, Sabretooth, and Mystique to the team.) One of the characters was trying to travel back to his own time and caused an explosion with a time machine that Havok got caught up in.

Meanwhile at that exact same moment in an alternate reality a different Havok was killed by a sentinel blast.

Our Havok then woke up in that Havok's body. He tried to convince people he was from an alternate reality for a while and for the most part nobody listened. Eventually he decided to just stat living his life as that Havok, who was a well respected member of one of THE Superhuman team on his earth. He was also married to Madelyn Pryor and had a kid.

Eventually, Maddie goes nuts again and becomes Goblin Queen except this Goblin Queen is a cosmic entity. Beyonder gets involved merges with the Goblin Force and Havok has to stop them. He discovers he somehow has ties to the Nexus of All Realities (that thing Man-Thing is always guarding.) After his battle with Beyonder Goblin Queen the next time we see him is back in our reality where his unconscious body is being taken care of by everyone's favorite supporting cast member Nurse Annie Gxyzptlk. This was the Chuck Austin era of X-men so his time in the Mutant X world and the Nexus was ignored.

I think there was one story in Exiles that touched up on it though.

Mutant X was a fun little title for the most part where every single character was living their own little What if? Iceman never gained control over his powers again after Loki messed with them. Scott Summers was taken into space and became a Starjammer. Storm was bitten by Dracula and became a vampire. Spider-man had six arms. Captain America was a mutant (and apparently this wasn't the same Cap from WWII), instea dof giving Archangel metal wings Apocalypse made him more demon-like. Dr. Doom was a hero. Stuff like that.

[Frobisher]

Late in X-factor's run there were some people from Bishop's time added to the group for reasons I can't remember and didn't really care about at the time either. (X-Factor got really bad towards the end once they decided to add Shard, Sabretooth, and Mystique to the team.) One of the characters was trying to travel back to his own time and caused an explosion with a time machine that Havok got caught up in.

Meanwhile at that exact same moment in an alternate reality a different Havok was killed by a sentinel blast.

Our Havok then woke up in that Havok's body. He tried to convince people he was from an alternate reality for a while and for the most part nobody listened. Eventually he decided to just stat living his life as that Havok, who was a well respected member of one of THE Superhuman team on his earth. He was also married to Madelyn Pryor and had a kid.

Eventually, Maddie goes nuts again and becomes Goblin Queen except this Goblin Queen is a cosmic entity. Beyonder gets involved merges with the Goblin Force and Havok has to stop them. He discovers he somehow has ties to the Nexus of All Realities (that thing Man-Thing is always guarding.) After his battle with Beyonder Goblin Queen the next time we see him is back in our reality where his unconscious body is being taken care of by everyone's favorite supporting cast member Nurse Annie Gxyzptlk. This was the Chuck Austin era of X-men so his time in the Mutant X world and the Nexus was ignored.

I think there was one story in Exiles that touched up on it though.

Mutant X was a fun little title for the most part where every single character was living their own little What if? Iceman never gained control over his powers again after Loki messed with them. Scott Summers was taken into space and became a Starjammer. Storm was bitten by Dracula and became a vampire. Spider-man had six arms. Captain America was a mutant (and apparently this wasn't the same Cap from WWII), instea dof giving Archangel metal wings Apocalypse made him more demon-like. Dr. Doom was a hero. Stuff like that.

To think people say comic book continuity is impenetrably Byzantine!

[yogaflame]

Mutant X, and the somewhat contemporaneous Earth X(and it's spinoffs), represent some of the deepest lore/continuity based comics I can think of, and I loved them! Those were comic book readers comics. Say what you will about their complexity, but in many ways that sort of thing is awesome compared to the stripped down, decompressed, rootless, floating in nothing comic books that are more in vogue these days. *I will say Hickman's new era is a perplexing blend of both continuity heavy and continuity-less storytelling. I love stories built on top of other stories.

[CRaymond]

Eh, I didn’t know about Storm’s Dracula incident or Iceman’s deal with Loki, and I still had a lot of fun with it. Mutant X was the O5+ with a monstrous twist. It was fun little book that really shouldn’t have been more than a 12-issue book. Alas, it had enough fans that writers decided it needed to address the Phoenix.

Earth X is majestic in its scope. I think it does work to clear the Byzantine, actually. Celestial antibodies should be the foundation the Marvel Universe is built.

[Glio]

Eh, I didn’t know about Storm’s Dracula incident or Iceman’s deal with Loki, and I still had a lot of fun with it. Mutant X was the O5+ with a monstrous twist. It was fun little book that really shouldn’t have been more than a 12-issue book. Alas, it had enough fans that writers decided it needed to address the Phoenix.

Earth X is majestic in its scope. I think it does work to clear the Byzantine, actually. Celestial antibodies should be the foundation the Marvel Universe is built.

Aaron recently reused concept in his Avengers, but it's just the opposite, Celestials pathogens. In recent years much of what is part of Earth X has been reused in one way or another, like Black Bolt releasing terrigen.

[yogaflame]

Earth X is majestic in its scope. I think it does work to clear the Byzantine, actually. Celestial antibodies should be the foundation the Marvel Universe is built.

Aaron recently reused concept in his Avengers, but it's just the opposite, Celestials pathogens. In recent years much of what is part of Earth X has been reused in one way or another, like Black Bolt releasing terrigen.

Earth X was magnificent, and I agree, it should have been used officially. I hate what Aaron did in Avengers. Also the whole Avengers 1m BC is crap too.

[CRaymond]

Also the whole Avengers 1m BC is crap too.

Laughably forgettable content.

[Alan2099]

Is Avengers 1Mill BC even in continuity?

That feels like some weird What if thing. At best it seems like it'll later show up as a comic or TV show I character is checking out only to have them say how silly the whole thing is.

[spirit2011]

Is Avengers 1Mill BC even in continuity?

That feels like some weird What if thing. At best it seems like it'll later show up as a comic or TV show I character is checking out only to have them say how silly the whole thing is.

Yes, it is.

[Glio]

Is Avengers 1Mill BC even in continuity?

That feels like some weird What if thing. At best it seems like it'll later show up as a comic or TV show I character is checking out only to have them say how silly the whole thing is.

Yes, we have to assume that a million years ago, long before humans existed in real life, there was a Jean Grey with the Phoenix in a furry bikini fucking Odin.

[Frobisher]

Yes, we have to assume that a million years ago, long before humans existed in real life, there was a Jean Grey with the Phoenix in a furry bikini fucking Odin.

Did her bedroom also open onto Dinosaur Ghost Rider’s room?

[spirit2011]

Did her bedroom also open onto Dinosaur Ghost Rider’s room?

Aaron is not a gimmick writer, there wasn't even rooms on ppre-history

[Glio]

Did her bedroom also open onto Dinosaur Ghost Rider’s room?

No, but she was mutant.

Because Aaron doesn't have enough filia with the Phoenix.

[spirit2011]

No, but she was mutant.

Because Aaron doesn't have enough filia with the Phoenix.

not always, mostly no. but is not like Hickman is any specialist