Genuinely curious: why is it funny to you, loke?
She's done that countless of times. I actually wish she was holding his hand while tk-flying, à la X-Factor. But maybe nowadays someone would write a long article about how anti-feminist it is for a woman to hold her husband's hand.
Ugh.
Yeah. I'm cranky. I'm old. I get to be cranky. :P
Best thing about getting old: I was born cranky, I can finally use my age as an excuse! :D
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I did check it out briefly, actually. But I'm writing this huge post for Scott and Jean's appreciation thread, while being a bit busy with real life. I'll go back to it when I have more time, though. I just won't be able to comment there. :)
So much to unpack with your post. Let's get to it. :)
I agree: "inexperienced" would have been a better description, but not a better contrast, because while becoming the Phoenix didn't improve her experience right away, it did increase her power (at that time).
And another thing to consider is that this is not a line from an impartial narrator. It was part of Scott's thoughts, as he was marveled/astounded/concerned by her power. Do we always think using the most accurate term possible? I guess not.
I don't know, it sounds organic to me. So, yeah, after an initial negative reaction, I came to be okay with that line.
I think, in a way, Charles understood that Jean was more mature and, more than that, he knew her well enough to be aware that, despite the fact she doesn't like secrets, she understands the necessity of them.
The way I see it, he would have wanted both Scott and Jean to be his heirs. While Scott's field leadership is only matched by few people, Jean's flexible thinking and diplomatic inclinations are on a league of her own.
Despite his wishes, I think we should give it to Charles, though: people love to throw him under the bus, but he never stopped the O5 from leaving the team and pursuing their college aspirations.
I know! I'm of the opinion that Jean doesn't need the Phoenix for anything. She's an Omega psychic who is only limited by herself.
Seriously: you don't need to convince me! :D
Just an observation: I'm sure you know (but who knows who is reading this post?), later-history-Mastermind was powered by a machine created by Emma Frost.
I know. It's infuriating, but it's part of reading comics books. You'll find those inconsistences about every aspect of every character you can imagine. :/
That's why I'm the annoying one here who plays devil's advocate when we discuss Jean's powers during this run, even though I am of the opinion that she's as Omega as it gets when it comes to everything related to psyonic powers.
The thing is: my opinion doesn't matter. We have to try to understand under what premises the current writers are working so we don't get too disappointed, because power levels will never be consistent, unfortunately.
Like I just wrote the other day: Phoenix just boosts Jean's power/confidence. It doesn't really add much to her power other than a cool fiery effect.
If you do read all the messages, you'll get to the ones where I talk about it. In my opinion, the concept of the Phoenix has only deteriorated since the DPS. CC himself started the process.
And since we don't have that cool stuff anymore, I just don't think the Phoenix adds anything to Jean other than a cool fiery effect... So, now that they completely destroyed the portrayal of the Force, I really don't want that chicken anywhere near Jean.
Now, that's not to say that I wouldn't want it, in theory, that Marvel saved the concept so we could see Jean doing some cosmic work with the Force. But I just don't trust they would do it well.
Yeah: cautiously optmistic is how I'd decribe my current feeling about the X-book too. Which, you know, is already an improvement.
I'm super ready to eat some crow. With pineapple! :P
My pleasure! I love discussing things with other fans too, as long as people keep it in a respectful tone. I love when we agree and I also love when we disagree. I always find it enriching, even if it doesn't change my mind or if it only partially changes. :)
There is so much I don't know or don't remember as well. It always impresses me when other fans share their stuff here! It's really cool! And I think you're a great addition to the team!
I have the feeling you'll be one of the loremasters I'll be referring to very soon. And it's great because Havok83 and Harpsikord need vacations from time to time! :D
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60s Jean? Don't mind if I do
I love how she casually negates Mesmero's hold on Iceman
Impressive fine motor TK control and multitasking, tracking an electronic brain, and long range telepathy with multiple spread out persons, and without Cerebro
A bit of psychometric telepathy and the first official (and pre-Phoenix) hint of what would be later called Jean's Omega level potential
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Omega_DCD, my friend, you spoil me!
Now I don't think I have to defend that Jean was awesome even in the 60s (even with the strains and faints and other of those eye-rolling stuff that is typical of the time).
Thanks for much for sharing! :)