It's the only one. I mean, what else do we have to go on, Floating Dish Girl from Hickman?
Literally, if she does anything besides faint or fail at using her powers in January's X-Men issue, I'll be surprised.
LUCKILY, Ben Percy's take on Jean in X-Force has been pretty modern and excellent.
Edit: I didn't mention Tom Taylor because I wasn't considering the slate of books that featured X-Men Red as part of this "current era". That said, I do still give Ben Percy's Jean the edge over Tom's because Tom never showed her more fiery side, even if the take was otherwise really great.
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“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
that's beside the point, she is a woman not a girl, even invisible woman changed her name from the original invisible girl and supergirl is going to soon be called super woman, there is a wonder woman and a wonder girl, time for jean to upgrade her name, "girl" it's too infantile.
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
But she upgraded when she went from Marvel Girl to Phœnix. And what an upgrade…
I see Hickman’s run like a downgrade, a throwback for all the things she went through and enables her to grow up.
And, seriously, what kind of message do you send when you use the costume and the codename you had when you were a teenager?
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
I expected Emma to make fun of Jean's clothing or code name, but ... Not even that.
Questioned the suggestion that Jean as Marvel Girl (or ever) was an "insecure teen". Nothing has been given to support that supposition.
Peter Parker? Bobby Drake? Angelica Jones? Scott Summers didn't change his suit from his teen years until he was put out to pasture and then came back from retirement. There are heroes who are still wearing the same or similar costumes from their early days.
The objectionable word would seem to be GIRL. And since SuperGIRL was cited as an example:
Seriously, I'm waiting for Quentin Quire to call her "Marvel MILF" one of these days!
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A connection to Mar-Vell isn't necessary. Look at Monica Rambeau. It's just a fun little elseworlds thing anyway.
Also - I'm fine with Marvel Girl specifically because of the scene that Thirteen just posted. Jean doesn't need to be an insecure teenage girl to use it. In fact, saying that someone going by girl is insecure or weak is inherently sexist.
"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
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"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
Peter Parker is the only one I can think who has reverted to his classic costume after his “black costume” period… But the “blue and red” is timeless and iconic and in the story, it was quite logical.
Scott Summers? He has no fantasy, it would make no sense he follows any trend.
Jean Grey, on the other hand, is supposed to have some taste in fashion… It’s ridiculous for an experienced woman to wear such a dress. You want to make some impression? You don’t wear out-of-dated clothes that makes you look like a young girl. I don’t blame the character: it’s stupid from the authors to dress her like that. It gives the impression that she isn’t the real Jean Grey and has come from some spatio-temporal flaw.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe