Loving the discourse. Please keep it going and coming. Also…
Jean’s new code name should be Nexus of Probabilities:
Loving the discourse. Please keep it going and coming. Also…
Jean’s new code name should be Nexus of Probabilities:
I do so love this unconventional "side-effect" Jean has on Destiny by simply existing. And partly why I think Phoenix or no Phoenix, Jean's true ultimate potential is related to the M'Kraan Crystal/WHR itself.
I'd also theorize that it could be related to how Rachel and Cable inherited their 4th dimensional/temporal abilities
“Nexus”…. Interesting code name
Idk man I hear nexus I go Wanda and the man-thing as an afterthought.
That’s fair. All-New is far from my favorite series and the choices for character direction are not all that interesting to me, except for some. Bendis wrote through the character dialogue that Emma would train Jean’s telepathy, yet we get her training Jean’s telekinesis? It is baffling.
My question was more to ask you what you think Bendis would have written Teen Jean to do had her telepathy not been locked in the issue? This is more looking at Bendis characterizing Teen Jean, rather than what we would have preferred. Kind of to see what he was trying to go for behind all the….bad takes on Emma. I can say that I would have preferred telepathic training by Emma as well if I were writing that issue.
I can buy Jean learning things on her own, but only through trial and tribulations through a span of time. Bendis did present Jean learning illusions, but this is also coming from the man that had Jean putting Wolverine to sleep the moment her telepathic powers awaken without even seeing another telepath perform anything remotely the same. So, it might not be a stretch by Bendis characterization for Jean to perfect new abilities through first go’s. I just personally find it hard to believe a telepath can naturally learn things like psychic looping without a teacher of sort. Jean is insanely good, but not perfect.
I mean, it might sound a little ridiculous that Emma did taught Jean things off-panel, but I can’t really say it makes better sense that Jean even knew the existence of dulling another person’s pain with her telepathy without at least seeing it first. And since Jean has never seen someone’s pain be dulled in the field, I could be attributed to Jean figuring out for herself.
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"Nexus being" is an established concept that has a specific meaning, even if it's not used that much. Someone saying Jean is a "Nexus of probabilities" once is vague and doesn't really have any importance without it being build up upon. Seems like it's a matter of her future being very undefined with a lot more probabilities for how it could go than others.
Destiny also called Jean an anomaly.
Also, per Marvel Fandom:
Jean (Earth-9250) is also listed as a Nexus Being, which is interesting. Never read anything having to do with that Jean.Nexus Beings are rare individual entities with the ability to affect probability and thus the future, thereby altering the flow of the Universal Time Stream.
(source: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary:Nexus_Beings)
In either case, the definitions for the word "nexus" are interesting:
Finally, Wiki refers to the Phoenix Force as:-a connection or series of connections linking two or more things.
-a connected group or series.
-the central and most important point or place.
(source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Force_(comics))"the nexus of all psionic energy that does, has, and ever will exist in all realities of the multiverse, the Guardian of Creation, and of the dangerously powerful M'Kraan Crystal."
This makes sense because as White Phoenix, Jean was able to alter reality so that Scott and Emma would become partners.
I find all of this fascinating if a little irrelevant, lol.
Yes, the term 'Nexus" has been applied to Jean. The Phoenix Force is the Nexus of all Psychic energy. Jean is/was The Phoenix. Thus, Jean is a Nexus.
I liked Jean appearing as an anomaly to Destiny. I wish more would have been revealed later on...
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
You are correct; she has definitely been associated with both more often.
This leads me to another question I have: If Jean (sans the Phoenix Force) and Wanda were to battle, Jean would be able to defeat Wanda by telepathically incapacitating her, right? I mean, I know in the MCU they gave Wanda telepathy - a power she did not have in the comic books if I remember correctly - but Jean is the most powerful telepath. Of course, Wanda could get the upper hand if she acted first, but even still, couldn't Jean telepathically force Wanda to direct her powers at something or someone else, including herself?
Additionally, from what I have seen, specifically in Avengers vs. X-Men, Wanda's chaos magic alone could not defeat the White Phoenix. While Wanda can hold her own against and even subdue fragments of the Phoenix Force, she cannot do the same when it comes to taking on the Phoenix Force when it is whole. She had to plead with Hope Summers to let her help her rid herself of the Phoenix. if Jean were to once again become the White Phoenix, she could defeat Wanda with ease, I believe.
Of course, I find all of this fascinating.
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!