"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
Which's not a good thing .
Funny the most respect Spidey got was in Ultimate of all places... Which was then followed by a pretty disrespectful resurrection, classic Bendis.My point is all other major or less major characters get agency in their deaths and then are replaced and w/ a lot of respect as well(example Logan or Cap) but Spidey has no agency in his replacements arcs and is mostly disrespected.I'm very happy to see Beyond is not doing this so far,Ben and even Misty and Colleen have shown respect for Peter.
I'll be expecting a BND2 just because Marvel is really good at repeating its dumb mistakes lol.Agreed, people absolutely adored Spencer's first issues, even till double digits.2 issues is way too small a sample size, specially considering that multiple (less competent)writers will also write this and that the Ben Peter dynamic that has been the highlight is also going away not to mention that the stunning art will also be changed.Beyond in it's format is extremely inconsistent, hopefully they deliver regardless.
Well, the last two were really mean spirited, and the last one ended 7 years ago, which feels a bit too soon, so it's understandable why fans can be wary of it, or just not like Peter being replaced in general lol.
So far this is more respectful than clone saga and Superior, at least.
The impression I got from Superior is that Otto is more effective as Spider-Man when things are "normal", but he's worse as a Peter Parker since he doesn't care about people around him as much, and when things get too rough he rage quits like a lil' bitch.
in that sense, I guess Spidey is the Superior Spider-Man™, but uh, it's generic and still doesn't change how the rest of the story is mean spirited lol.
Guess "Gamma" can mean "asspull" lol.
May it not reach Speedforce levels of asspull, unless it did already, I dunno, I don't read Hulk much lol.
With this pacing, it'll feel like one big issue where nothing much happens either way lol.Don't worry, by the end of the month the four comics would feel like one big issue
100% agreed, but no matter how good or bad the writing it was still his arc.Still better than any of Pete's even including Beyond in concept, the writing for Beyond is much better than CW2 so far.
Exactly, it's a damn shameFunny the most respect Spidey got was in Ultimate of all places... Which was then followed by a pretty disrespectful resurrection, classic Bendis.
"Insert Michael Scott NOOO meme here"I'll be expecting a BND2 just because Marvel is really good at repeating its dumb mistakes lol.
FactsWell, the last two were really mean spirited, and the last one ended 7 years ago, which feels a bit too soon, so it's understandable why fans can be wary of it, or just not like Peter being replaced in general lol.
So far this is more respectful than clone saga and Superior, at least.
Yeah, still I like it's 19 issues/arts.Atleast we know plot will have to move at a relatively fast paceWith this pacing, it'll feel like one big issue where nothing much happens either way lol.
Speaking of BND, let’s be honest… that was kind of a replacement story too. Going from mature, married and emotionally hardened Peter who was at least 30… to some early 20s hipster man-child douche who sticks his tongue down a stranger’s throat at a club was pretty jarring. He was PINO, Peter In Name Only. Over the years, some of his pre-BND traits have come back (though never fully tbh). But in a way that’s a replacement story, and it might be the worst one.
What a week! 2 Ben appearances!!
Scarlet Ben in Iron Man (love that artist's take on him) and Beyond Ben in Amazing!!!
Zeb is doing Ben right. I can actually see the Peter side of him shining through as opposed to whatever was going on in his solo series by Peter David. The new costume and gadgets are cool but the character stuff is what's hooking me.
I will forever advocate that they need to have a "diner issue" (just coined that term) where nothing else is going on to rush things and they just have lunch and talk and reminisce about being the same fucking person! There's so much heart and comedy potential for a one-off issue like this. Comics never take the time to let clones appreciate each other! Brother from another test tube.
Speaking of clones, where is Kaine these days? Has he popped up since the end of the Scarlet Spider series?
If the wiki is accurate, last time he showed up was in Spider-Geddon, so yeah, it's been a while since the last time he showed up lol.
To make it weirder, Aracely showed up in Champions#6 vol 3:
And she makes no mention of Kaine... At least her personality was intact, even if this is just a cameo lol.
Make us four
Yeah that specific dynamic is definitely what all Ben fans are really craving. I think the very best scene in that vein was in the very first issue of Revelations when Pete and Ben were reminiscing in Aunt May’s attic shortly before the shit hit the fan.
There’s been other bromances in comics, but that one is my favorite… mostly because it just came about naturally and was kind of unplanned even by the writers.
That's why Ben fans like him so much. Check out Spectacular Spider-Man #240 for some heartfelt bro moments between Peter and Ben. It's the beginning of the end of the clone saga.
"Despite the fork in the road five years ago, we are the same guy. Closer that brothers-- closer than two people could be. When I found out that I was the clone and not you-- okay... yeah, I bugged out... but after that-- it was you! It was your strength-- your acceptance of it when you thought you were the clone that carried me through! You were my strength, and. well... you've come to mean a lot to me. I love you, man."
—Peter Parker
You'll never see that kind of deep stuff between Pete and Miles, and definitely not between Pete and Otto.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Spect...-Man_Vol_1_240