And part of that taint is when people who aren't doing those things and are voicing perfectly reasonable criticisms get lumped in with the ones who take it too far.
And part of that taint is when people who aren't doing those things and are voicing perfectly reasonable criticisms get lumped in with the ones who take it too far.
Rogue wears rouge.
Angel knows all the angles.
It could be very possible that when the new lantern takes up the role they'll still won't be a corps. Or maybe they'll be in the mend.
I hope the new gen actually gets fresh villains with their own new concepts like how they did in the Batman Beyond cartoon. They created villains that connected to Terry, not Bruce, and when an old one did come back (Joker) it was special.
I hope that some perpetually teenage characters get to age as well. I hope Barbara can get the Oracle title back while Kara also grows into something
But like Dataweaver said, don't lump every fan who takes issue with this into the same group as those nutcase assholes who make a bad name for the rest of it.
Yeah characters are bound to return, but after what another 2 years or so? On top of maybe not having a great direction before that, so we're already starved for good content with out favorite characters? Within reason, that's a perfectly valid thing to complain about.
I think the logic of "If you don't like it, then stop reading" is exactly what this initiative would not need. Goes back to what I said concerning the need for better communication between fans and creators.
Well, currently there's plenty of classic characters who are still active, yet aren't doing anything of substance. If you also take away many of the characters who are actually doing something substantial, then you're indeed starving your fanbase.
One thing I haven't seen much speculation on is the creative teams.
Tom King will be done with his run on Batman and James Tynion is just a placeholder...all we know is that Bendis is likely not writing the Luke Fox Batman. I dunno, maybe Bryan Hill will want to write black Batman?
Bendis has been doing all this character shifting with Jon, and in some ways making him more like his dad, so I wonder if he'll write Jon as Superman.
Steve Orlando looks like he might be the last writer on the Wonder Woman solo book to write the original Wonder Woman.
I can see Joshua Williamson being done on The Flash by the time the next big Crisis event story happens. I can see him wrapping up his run by then.
Kelly Sue DeConnick brought Aqualad in and if the plan was to do that to set up a replacement storyline, will she also be writing 5G!Aquaman?
It really sounds like we're getting a new Kyle.
It's so hard to develop original Rogues Galleries though...heck, I can see Superman, WW, and Aquaman fans being disappointed because they're villains hardly get any love as is.I hope the new gen actually gets fresh villains with their own new concepts like how they did in the Batman Beyond cartoon. They created villains that connected to Terry, not Bruce, and when an old one did come back (Joker) it was special.
I wonder if they'll move Babs out of being Batgirl again. I guess if they're replacing Barry Allen, chances are they'll do the same for her.I hope that some perpetually teenage characters get to age as well. I hope Barbara can get the Oracle title back while Kara also grows into something
I don't know if we need another Supergirl.
That's where I'm at. I've been around the block a few times, I know how things work. Of course the classic characters will return to their roles in due time. But due time is a relative term, and there comes a point when a fan is just tired of waiting for due time to pass over and over and over. It can get exhausting. The younger me would have just been like, okay I'll wait this out. But I've played the waiting game with DC more than enough times now. Last time I waited around it paid off into something I enjoyed, only for it to get wiped out. And I'm older, more impatient than I used to be, and I have other hobbies that I can enjoy in the now, and actually enjoy it more than waiting out bad ideas. That's what me being a superhero fan feels like these days, more waiting out bad ideas than enjoying the moment.
"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
Except it's not like DC fans only read DC comics. We're already giving those "desperate" people our attention and money when we are interested in their content.
When I'm craving a Wonder Woman story, I'm not going to any of them. And her back catalogue is nowhere near as impressive as Batman's. I can only re-read my favorite runs so many times. I'm not gonna keep buying something I don't enjoy, I already do that when a comic isn't telling a good story with the actual main character, but I'm sick of that being what I have to do. It's not some revolutionary idea that fans want to be excited for the characters they care about in new things.
I could see Williams either staying on Flash or moving to another big name. While it's more likely Bendis will stick on Superman I hope he doesn't. He's been hit or miss for me lately.
I do wonder what Sunder will do. We already know he's doing a Diana led JSA but I wonder if he'd be interested in a present day one? Maybe Superman?
Also, I meant that Kara keeps being Supergirl but one that isn't a teenager. So I guess more like Power girl.
This whole things feels like it will be a disaster. I can't imagine that anyone really cares about another generation of heroes when most feel the heroes they follow and like are constantly getting slighted because DC is crowded enough already.
I'm pretty sure people like Didio are on record saying they would rather have readers be upset and angry than indifferent. He said something like that. Since angry fans still buy and talk about the books they hate while indifferent people don't. So I think that having readers say they "hate" something is a response that DC sometimes goes after because they want to invoke that reaction from their fans. It kind of breeds a bad culture of readers reacting negatively to things even when DC doesn't want to have them react negatively.
If true, I find that to be an incredibly counterproductive tactic. Being in the reaction business isn't paying their bills. Doesn't even make sense when you keep in mind that the more you tend to piss people off, they would eventually get tired of it and stop caring. They would still get indifferent no matter what.