Gal Gadot is Wonder Woman in new Man of Steel Sequel

[wagthedog]

Do you really need me to list the times men and women in movies are digitally enhanced for movies and posters in one way or form?
Think you should just read this short bit about Kiera Knightly: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/07/showbi...topless-photo/

(NOTE: It's a CNN article!)

Again, I don't care what they have done with men in movies. And I don't care about photoshopped movie posters or magazine layouts/covers.

In which movies can you tell me that the lead women have been CGI'd for the entire movie, or even for a partial length. And I don't mean movies like Avatar in which the character is all but unrecognizable. If you can name a movie, for instance, the newest TRON movie in which they CGI'ed Jeff Bridges to make his CLue character younger, that is what I am looking for. But as far as I know, they have yet to do that with a woman to date. Again, I doubt they will CGI Gal Gadot's character, but you implied they might, so I am asking what other movies with female leads have they done that with?

Note...Just because it is a CNN article with exclamation points just means that the fewest amount of viewers are actually watching that particular news network. But I did read about the Keira Knightly article on a different website.

[Blacksun]

Do you really need me to list the times men and women in movies are digitally enhanced for movies and posters in one way or form?
Think you should just read this short bit about Kiera Knightly: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/07/showbi...topless-photo/

(NOTE: It's a CNN article!)

I remember Knightley saying that un pirates of caribbean they used make up for ilusion of her having bigger breasts.

Brian synger said that if they used CGI to get a smaller crtotch for Routh it would have wasted too much money. So I'm not sure use CGI in all WW scenes will be viable

Cavill is much bigger as superman than when he did theseus on that movie immortals;

[DochaDocha]

I believe so ... My thought here is that she is thin, but that doesn't mean she doesn't look athletic. Hopefully she doesn't "run like a girl" ... Meaning lacks athletic coordination ... That would be a far worse problem for me than her physique IMO

That was one of the problems with Lynda Carter. She wasn't athletic in the classical Olympian sense.

[Outside_85]

In which movies can you tell me that the lead women have been CGI'd for the entire movie, or even for a partial length.

Note...Just because it is a CNN article with exclamation points just means that the fewest amount of viewers are actually watching that particular news network. But I did read about the Keira Knightly article on a different website.

I would skip on a list and just say most of them, despite how beutiful we think they are, most male and female actors have physical traits that are unwanted in the movie that can't always be covered up with makeup or clothes, like Jolie's numerous and very personal tatooes, various spots and marks, 'miscoloration' due to weather or physical activity and so on. Look at the women that appear in film and then compare them to when they appear in talkshows.

The note was so that the mods wouldn't come down on my head because they only read the 'nude' part of the link and though I was linking to some porn site.

[wagthedog]

I would skip on a list and just say most of them, despite how beutiful we think they are, most male and female actors have physical traits that are unwanted in the movie that can't always be covered up with makeup or clothes, like Jolie's numerous and very personal tatooes, various spots and marks, 'miscoloration' due to weather or physical activity and so on. Look at the women that appear in film and then compare them to when they appear in talkshows.

The note was so that the mods wouldn't come down on my head because they only read the 'nude' part of the link and though I was linking to some porn site.

In other words, you cannot name a movie in which a female lead has been CGI'ed throughout. I wouldn't even be bothering with this line of arguing, except for the fact that you implied they might do that with Gal, which seems unreasonable to me.

And yes, I know that many of the men and women we see on the big screen will and do look different without makeup. I've seen pictures on the internet with/without makeup and seen the difference. But using makeup versus someone going out and using CGI for the entire movie on an actor is going to be too damn expensive. So yes, they will use heavy makeup and the likes on Gal, probably using techniques to try and give the appearance of her being bigger than she is. But CGI, doubtful unless it is part of an action sequence, ala the bad CGI used on Halle Berry in Catwoman.

Yet, there are some people who are just naturally gorgeous or handsome and I have seen their pictures sans makeup and they still looked like they came from a photoshoot.

[wagthedog]

That was one of the problems with Lynda Carter. She wasn't athletic in the classical Olympian sense.

There was no problems with Lynda Carter whatsoever. Blashphemy

[Darius]

That was one of the problems with Lynda Carter. She wasn't athletic in the classical Olympian sense.

Yet she is still an iconic representation of the character. Plus it was the 1970's ... Nadia Comaneci was the pinnacle of female athleticism at the time

[DochaDocha]

Yet she is still an iconic representation of the character. Plus it was the 1970's ... Nadia Comaneci was the pinnacle of female athleticism at the time

I should've said the "one problem" with Lynda. She's something like Wonder Woman emeritus.

[Darius]

Again, I don't care what they have done with men in movies. And I don't care about photoshopped movie posters or magazine layouts/covers.

In which movies can you tell me that the lead women have been CGI'd for the entire movie, or even for a partial length. And I don't mean movies like Avatar in which the character is all but unrecognizable. If you can name a movie, for instance, the newest TRON movie in which they CGI'ed Jeff Bridges to make his CLue character younger, that is what I am looking for. But as far as I know, they have yet to do that with a woman to date. Again, I doubt they will CGI Gal Gadot's character, but you implied they might, so I am asking what other movies with female leads have they done that with?

Note...Just because it is a CNN article with exclamation points just means that the fewest amount of viewers are actually watching that particular news network. But I did read about the Keira Knightly article on a different website.

What difference does it make if it's a male or female? The end result is it CAN be done, as clearly evidenced by your own examples. And why isn't Avatar a good example of CGI being used on a female lead? They CGI the heck out of everyone in that movie, but you could still see that the actress was Sigourney Weaver or Zoe Saldana. Do you think they wouldn't use CGI if they made a She-Hulk movie simply to avoid CGI on a woman for some reason?

To be honest I see no reason for them to use CGI on GG , seems like a waste of effort IMO, but that doesn't mean they can't or won't do it if they think it'll make for a better visual story.

[Darius]

I should've said the "one problem" with Lynda. She's something like Wonder Woman emeritus.

fair enough! I was just a wee pup back in those days, but I so loved her and Lindsay Wagner!

[Dr. Hurt]

It's not a suit. I watched Gone Girl and you could tell he'd been building himself up for BvS. Affleck was massive.

They're still wearing muscle suits under their superhero suits so that the muscles bulge more though the fabric. Brandon Routh was also buff in SR but it wasnt so obvious because of the lack of muscle suit. His SM suit ended up looking like pajamas. I've seen pictures of Cavill's muscle suit on Superhero Hype.

We haven't neglected the option, as you would say. She has supposedly been training for close to a year now, with very little results as reflected in some of her latest photos. These photos show how she went from extremely thin to just thin. She looks more 'normal' now, but still on the Hollywood thin side.

And they have been shooting, so if you think she will somehow magically gain more mass and look ripped, I think you are asking for too much. She is what she is. I think many people, like me, thought the pick was curious from the start seeing how thin she was on initial casting. Why not go for someone more 'normal' in size and have a better chance of getting a more buff/ripped look? I think it's because Synder was looking for a type and had no intention of Gadot ever becoming more than what she is now.

I think you are using a strawman or perhaps an extreme argument that most of us aren't asking for. I think many of us want a look for Wonder Woman that might be close to a Ms. Fitness physique. This is hardly a bodybuilder physique. I wouldn't want Wonder Woman to look like a female body builder. But the look of a fitness contestant or better yet, the ones that are in the bikini fitness class. They have muscle, yet not overly large and definitely wouldn't hamper them fighting wise. But why can Superman have the huge muscles and yet we don't complain and say those big muscles of his hamper his fight style?

Some people may not like the look, but let's say a physique approaching what Gina Carano sports. I think that is what many of us could have hope for. Or a physique like Jessica Biel. Not bodybuilder big.

I agree with both posts.

[Dr. Hurt]

She wasn't remotely unhealthy skinny at the time she got the part, anyway.

And no, I wouldn't expect her to 'magically' look more buff in the screen... because I know they can do that with CGI and other tricks and have been doing so for quite a lot of years now.

I've never seen a movie where they used CGI to make someone look buffer. They just hire the appropriate actors and tell them to work out. In a movie so heavy on CGI, why would they waste even more money on it, instead of hiring a bigger actress and sending her to the gym? I mean what you're asking for basically means that they'd have to use CGI on her for every scene she appears in. It's ridiculous.

Also, forgive me for saying this, i dont know her, but i would have liked the role of such an iconic and symbolic character to go to someone with talent and personality. Have you ever watched a Cavill interview? Apart from a talented actor, the guy really is superman in real life. He's a total bro. I'm sorry but i just dont care about an untested model who got this job. I would comment on the "how" but i've seen Gael frown upon speculation regarding such matters so i'll leave it at that.

[Dr. Hurt]

Lena Heady had her cleavage CGI'd? I realize that they did something with making all the Spartans look like they had 6-pack abs, but you seriously think they CGI'd the cleavage?

And I know Sin City was done all by green screen, but which females did they CGI in there? According to some people, Jessica Alba is the hottest female their ever was and you are saying that they used CGI on her?

Have you ever seen some of these people in real life? I promise you they look different. First, no one's skin is ever that smooth or without pours and makeup is only going to do so much. I am not saying they used CGI as a fact, but certainly makeup and other effects were used post-production to enhance these women. I would assume in much the same way a photo shoot for a magazine cover (or Kim Kardashians backside) will be manipulated post-shoot.

Not sure why anyone would be shocked by this since all the men in 300 had CGI touched up abs ... It's practically part of the story!

Maybe they added some shading to make them stand out more, but it's not like Gerard Butler wasnt 99% close to what we saw in the movie.



I dont think that they'll use CGI to give Gal Gadot Jessica Biel's body. Why not hire Biel from the get go?

[The Darknight Detective]

...and I would love to see a doctor say she was unhealthy.

[Awonder]

I am not impressed by what I've seen of Gal's acting. It's meh, at best.

I am not a big fan of a model thin physique for WW. Gal seems very naturally thin. If she is healthy and happy with that, great for Gal, the person. If she has no problem with it, then neither should we. But it isn't an ideal build for WW, imo.

She isn't my ideal choice, but she is what we got, so, I wish her all the best. More than one little-known long shot has knocked it out of the park. Hopefully, she will, too. And, no, I don't think we should be speculating as to how she got the job.