They felt incredibly fan servicey to me. I felt like they catered to older, more conservative DC readers who may have dropped off Superman. They felt nostalgic and backwards looking. Bringing in the author of "Death of Superman" in 2015 sends a pretty clear message imo, and that message is that these ARE your father's Superman books. They felt like a clear response to the books that have taken huge risks and challenged the status quo recently.
If you think Bendis is'nt a top 50 writer, why did you utter such rubbish as Riri Williams being more competently written than Superman?
It just seems like trolling to me at this stage.
With how stable and fun they've made the Superman books over the last two years or so, I'd say they are. You don't like them? Boo hoo, I'll hold your violin, but your unhealthy fixation on how "bad" they are is not shared by everyone who owe their renewed interest in Superman comics entirely to their efforts.
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Because Superman has been around for so long he's had many stories that I don't consider to be that good.
If we go back to the Post-Crisis era, up until the 00s there are next to no stories from the flagship books that I'm a fan of. That's nearly fifteen years worth of Superman comics.
This goes back to my Simpsons comparison. The Simpsons has what I consider to be among the best TV ever created. There's 8 seasons worth of what I consider to be great television. Then there are 21 seasons that I don't think are that good, if not awful.
There are many shows that I would say are written better than The Simpsons overall, even if I don't think those shows compete with the 8 seasons worth of Simpsons that I think are really good.
It was literally a reply to a post about my top 50.
I'm no Bendis fan but I don't mind him in DC books as much as I did Marvel I mean it's DC they'll just retcon or reboot his stories out of continuity in a few years if really awful.
The current teams aren't awful. You want awful read his Iron Man or Civil War 2 or 95% of his output with in the last decade.
Lets be honest, you find the Superman books not challenging because they dont go around preaching pseudo liberal ideals 24/7.
Last edited by Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever; 03-05-2018 at 04:13 AM.
Its ok by me if you want books to be preachy. While I've been greatly disillusioned by the left I still loathe right wing politics. I however believe that Superman shouldn't be a mouth piece for anything but humanism.
Its a direct spin off book from the main Superman and features the same characters as Superman just with the addition of Damian.
Ofcourse its a forward looking fun book. Putting character and development over other things doesn't it any less forward.
"Preachy" has come to mean something so broad that I don't think it has any real meaning in discussions like this.
I'm sure what you and I consider to be a preachy tone is going to be different.
I can only point to examples where I think writers go over the top in trying to get their point across, like Waid in Champions. That's an example of the type of writing I'd like to avoid.
Last edited by Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever; 03-05-2018 at 04:10 AM.