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[Starrius]

He has to be something he literally killed peter and brought him back just to kill him again

How can Peter defeat a supernatural being like Kindred?

This looks like he'd need help from Dr. Strange to defeat Kindred.

[t-spider]

How can Peter defeat a supernatural being like Kindred?

This looks like he'd need help from Dr. Strange to defeat Kindred.

That is the issue... physical attacks do nothing to Kindred... especially if he's a demonic spirit possessing dead bodies. In order to win, Pete's going to need some kind of advantage.

[Ursalink]

How can Peter defeat a supernatural being like Kindred?

This looks like he'd need help from Dr. Strange to defeat Kindred.

Nothing in this whole story has been what we thought, so there's a high possibility Kindred is not so supernatural either. I mean, Doc Ock discovered he controlled his centipedes in a similar way that Ant-Man controls ants; and it was revealed he uses Chameleon's serum to change its appearance. If its powers are supernatural, why would he need a serum like Chameleon's?

[Vortex85]

Nothing in this whole story has been what we thought, so there's a high possibility Kindred is not so supernatural either. I mean, Doc Ock discovered he controlled his centipedes in a similar way that Ant-Man controls ants; and it was revealed he uses Chameleon's serum to change its appearance. If its powers are supernatural, why would he need a serum like Chameleon's?

It would be weird to have a story where the twist is nothing is supernatural featuring Mephisto in it. LOL

Also, the whole Mordo and Dr. Strange not noticing he isn't supernatural would be, kind of, eh....

Honestly, the run would make so little sense it would really piss me off at this point if that were the case.

[Ursalink]

It would be weird to have a story where the twist is nothing is supernatural featuring Mephisto in it. LOL

Also, the whole Mordo and Dr. Strange not noticing he isn't supernatural would be, kind of, eh....

Honestly, the run would make so little sense it would really piss me off at this point if that were the case.

I didn't say there wasn't a supernatural factor here, but if many of his abilities were actually technological that means he's not as powerful as it seems.

[Krec99]

How can Peter defeat a supernatural being like Kindred?

This looks like he'd need help from Dr. Strange to defeat Kindred.

He can’t which is why he isn’t Spider-Man after this

[Spiderfan001]

How can Peter defeat a supernatural being like Kindred?

This looks like he'd need help from Dr. Strange to defeat Kindred.

He has before, you acting he hasn't fought supernaturals before.Mf'er convinced Lady death to let him and a girl go back to the living, beat Zarathos by sheer power of will surprising both Mephisto and Beyonder and shaped all of reality twice once by Nightmare(God of fear) and Once by sheer will in the nexus of all realities.
Aside from this he has fought multiple supernaturals.
Doc Ock has shown tech affects Kindred and magic itself and Peter has consistently shown to be smarter than him, he'll win if the plot let's him.

[Spiderfan001]

He can’t which is why he isn’t Spider-Man after this

Acc. to solicits he will be around after this and will go down in Beyond 2nd issue.That may be a lie but that's what we have if you are talking about Beyond.

[gonnagiveittoya]

Is. "Mysterio hypnotized people" going to become the new "it was a doombot"

[exile001]

Is. "Mysterio hypnotized people" going to become the new "it was a doombot"

Or dead villain actually fled to Europe (usually for a decade+ and to amass power for a shocking return).

[exile001]

I think I've made it pretty damn clear that I am all for clone-based nonsense and dear god did this deliver!

We got regular clones, advanced/altered/gene-splice clones, mind clones and potentially a ghost clone. This was awesome (at least from a needlessly convoluted clone perspective)!

That and the whole issue was a massive fuck you to Sins Past. *chef's kiss*

One question, if it's all clone bollocks why on Earth would Spencer not use, y'know, The Jackal... THE FUCKING CLONE GUY?!?!?!?

It's kinda weird that Spencer has used basically everyone except Jackal (while still including clones) and Hobgoblin. Like, when he randomly used Count Nefario, Juggernaut, et al (yes, I know Peter previously faced them all), why not cram in Hobby and a few other missing villains?

And thanks to Spiderfan001 for explaining the 2 Kindreds thing. It makes more sense than their teleporting briefly between Pete and MJ's parts (or they're being at separate times) and I don't think that was perfectly explained in the issue.

[Krec99]

I don’t understand it either like it or not the clone saga is a big part of Spider-Man history the jackal can create the perfect clone

[Blanks]

I don’t understand it either like it or not the clone saga is a big part of Spider-Man history the jackal can create the perfect clone

And as we saw from the Clone Conspiracy, that cloning/revival process allowed people to retain memories from the moment of their death, which makes it more of a resurrection than a cloning. So, yeah. The no mentioning of the Jackal is kinda… hmm.

But, there is enough mixed in with this story enough as it is. And with the Osborn’s ties to Gwens death, the Jackal would probably never side with Harry or Norman anyways.

[Webhead]

Don't forget the Jackal is dead. Yeah, I know. But still. Slott killed him while going out of his way to establish he was in fact the original; you'd have to do another retcon, and on a very recent story. All for a character whose motivations and MO have been all over the place.

[Blanks]

Don't forget the Jackal is dead. Yeah, I know. But still. Slott killed him while going out of his way to establish he was in fact the original; you'd have to do another retcon, and on a very recent story. All for a character whose motivations and MO have been all over the place.

That… is true. I forgot.

And if the real, original Jackal is indeed now dead, I hope he stays that way, lol.