All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[numberthirty]

There are only bad guys in that scenario.

If having that take makes you feel better, run with it.

Meanwhile out in the world where it didn't actually make much in the way of waves, everyone else isn't exactly shocked by that it didn't.

[PaulBullion]

There are only bad guys in that scenario.

And that's before you even get into the "opposition to traditional medicine" aspect of the story. Because sterile conditions and vaccines are so capitalist.

[Superbat]

She did campaign with and for Jill Stein though in July 2016, so I can see where the assumption comes from that she voted for her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_psWNTpnjc

She didn't campaign for Jill Stein. They both spoke at the People’s Convention about similar issues.

Reverend William Barber spoke their too and in 2016 he was telling people to vote for Hillary to stop Trump.

[PaulBullion]

If having that take makes you feel better, run with it.

Meanwhile out in the world where it didn't actually make much in the way of waves, everyone else isn't exactly shocked by that it didn't.

I'm not shocked, either. Because I know that Republicans and foreign agents are sitting on it until they need it.

[Superbat]

That is what the article says. He wanted to stay longer, but they asked him to leave after 3 days because he was harming productivity.

What's the controversy?

He went to interview them as a journalist. One person didn't like him taking up time and asked him to leave so he did.

[SquirrelMan]

What's the controversy?

None, because there was no E-Mail yet. Hashtag: #NoServerNoScandal

[Superbat]

None, because there was no E-Mail yet. Hashtag: #NoServerNoScandal

Actually, E-mail did exist in a limited form in 1971.

[SquirrelMan]

Actually, E-mail did exist in a limited form in 1971.

Not in most hippie communes. Just the fancy ones like the Playboy mansion.

[PaulBullion]

Actually, E-mail did exist in a limited form in 1971.

The first test E-Mail was sent on the ARPANET in LATE 1971.

That is VERY limited form.

[PaulBullion]

None, because there was no E-Mail yet. Hashtag: #NoServerNoScandal

I think the real measure is #NoUterusNoScandal

[PaulBullion]

With all the likely contenders being over 200 years old, I cannot think of a presidential election in my lifetime where the choice of Veep was more important (maybe Reagan's second, but I was tiny).

Also because many people, me included, are not very excited about who is left.

Even Trump might dump Pence for Sean Hannity if his polls remain bad.


Which candidates would get you excited? Beto? Michelle Obama? Susan Sarandon?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Just one article to share this morning, but it's an important one about how Trump's racist and xenophobic rhetoric is seriously fucking up kids. It's a long piece, but well worth reading as it illustrates to perfection the all too real danger of Trump's toxic presidency to our children and their future:

Trump’s words, bullied kids, scarred schools

Two kindergartners in Utah told a Latino boy that President Trump would send him back to Mexico, and teenagers in Maine sneered "Ban Muslims" at a classmate wearing a hijab. In Tennessee, a group of middle-schoolers linked arms, imitating the president's proposed border wall as they refused to let nonwhite students pass. In Ohio, another group of middle-schoolers surrounded a mixed-race sixth-grader and, as she confided to her mother, told the girl: "This is Trump country."

Since Trump's rise to the nation’s highest office, his inflammatory language — often condemned as racist and xenophobic — has seeped into schools across America. Many bullies now target other children differently than they used to, with kids as young as 6 mimicking the president’s insults and the cruel way he delivers them.

Trump’s words, those chanted by his followers at campaign rallies and even his last name have been wielded by students and school staff members to harass children more than 300 times since the start of 2016, a Washington Post review of 28,000 news stories found. At least three-quarters of the attacks were directed at kids who are Hispanic, black or Muslim, according to the analysis. Students have also been victimized because they support the president — more than 45 times during the same period.

Although many hateful episodes garnered coverage just after the election, The Post found that Trump-connected persecution of children has never stopped. Even without the huge total from November 2016, an average of nearly two incidents per school week have been publicly reported over the past four years. Still, because so much of the bullying never appears in the news, The Post’s figure represents a small fraction of the actual total. It also doesn’t include the thousands of slurs, swastikas and racial epithets that aren’t directly linked to Trump but that the president’s detractors argue his behavior has exacerbated.

“It’s gotten way worse since Trump got elected,” said Ashanty Bonilla, 17, a Mexican American high school junior in Idaho who faced so much ridicule from classmates last year that she transferred. “They hear it. They think it’s okay. The president says it. . . . Why can’t they?”

Asked about Trump’s effect on student behavior, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham noted that first lady Melania Trump — whose “Be Best” campaign denounces online harassment — had encouraged kids worldwide to treat one another with respect.

“She knows that bullying is a universal problem for children that will be difficult to stop in its entirety,” Grisham wrote in an email, “but Mrs. Trump will continue her work on behalf of the next generation despite the media’s appetite to blame her for actions and situations outside of her control.”

[Superbat]

USA TODAY/Ipsos poll: For voters, Bernie Sanders outranks other Democrats – and Trump – on values, empathy

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/4754500002/

WASHINGTON – Is Democratic candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders likable enough to win the White House? A new USA TODAY/Ipsos poll released Friday suggests a lot of voters think so.

Asked for their views on the personal characteristics of several Democratic presidential contenders and of President Donald Trump, voters consistently gave Sanders the highest marks for his values and empathy.

Trump and his allies have long said they believe the president could easily defeat Sanders if he faces off against the Vermont senator in November. Some of Sanders’ Democratic rivals have suggested a more centrist candidate might have a better chance at taking on Trump.

But if character is on the ballot in November, the USA TODAY/Ipsos poll, conducted Wednesday through Thursday, shows Sanders has a clear advantage over the incumbent president. In the survey, 40% of voters said they admired Sanders’ character, well above the 26% who said they admired Trump.

Thirty-one percent of voters said they admired former Vice President Joe Biden, while Sen. Elizabeth Warren and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg each got 30%. Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg was not far behind with 29% of voters who said they admired him.

Familiarity was a factor for some voters. Close to 40% of voters didn't have an opinion on Buttigieg and Bloomberg's character while closer to 30% didn't have a view for Biden, Sanders, and Warren.

Democratic strategist Andrew Feldman said Sanders' consistent messaging may help him on some measures related to trust.

"Whether you like him or not, voters know where Bernie Sanders stands," Feldman said. "He talks about systemic problems in a way that is really simple to understand. He doesn't move off that messaging."

Sanders' rivals have long argued the Vermont senator has promoted an agenda that doesn't reflect the larger population. In a recent documentary former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who defeated Sanders in a bitter 2016 primary to become the Democratic nominee, described him as a "career politician" who had no support.

"Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done," she reportedly said in the film.

However, the USA TODAY/Ipsos poll found 39% of voters said Sanders "shares my values," compared to 30% each for Buttigieg and Biden, 31% for Warren, 28% for Bloomberg and 31% for Trump.

[Steel Inquisitor]

What's the controversy?

He went to interview them as a journalist. One person didn't like him taking up time and asked him to leave so he did.

When Bernie did have a choice to participate in a socialist community he didn't care to, and instead hindered the back breaking work people are doing there that he got kicked out for it. This is who's supposed to be leading this "revolution." He sounded more like a tourist than a socialist.

She didn't campaign for Jill Stein. They both spoke at the People’s Convention about similar issues.

Reverend William Barber spoke their too and in 2016 he was telling people to vote for Hillary to stop Trump.

Turner did everything in her power in the media during the '16 general to make people not vote for the Democrats. Who did she vote for, Gary Johnson? This is a reason why she's persona non grata to Liberals, while being friendly with Trump supporters. It's not hard to read between the lines with Nina Turner.

[Superbat]

When Bernie did have a choice to participate in a socialist community he didn't care to, and instead hindered the back breaking work people are doing there that he got kicked out for it? This is who's supposed to be leading this "revolution." He sounded more like a tourist than a socialist.

He sounded like someone doing research which is what he was doing there.