Jean Grey/Marvel Girl/The Phoenix Appreciation

[Havok83]

But didn't Jean already learn everything Beast knew about the human/mutant body, before her last death? I thought Jean used that knowledge to reform Emma after her diamond form was shattered? Wouldn't Jean have retained that info?

What does that have to do with anything?

[Harpsikord]

It’s Cap and I thought he named her bc she has history with the Celestials and therefore would be a better fit

Oh ****, I forgot about this. That's probably exactly the reason that they namedropped her here. She's already been in the mind of a Celestial before!

What does that have to do with anything?

Probably her explanation for going into T'Challa's head to help take out the sentinite?

I'm going to guess that the information Jean got from Hank has to do more with the outside of a person's body than the inside because presumably Emma doesn't exactly have the same kind of insides as someone else if she is solid diamond.

[WhiteQueenEmmaFrost]

But didn't Jean already learn everything Beast knew about the human/mutant body, before her last death? I thought Jean used that knowledge to reform Emma after her diamond form was shattered? Wouldn't Jean have retained that info?

She learned where things need to go to put Emma back together. This was different...what she did to Storm was more extraction rather than putting anything back.

Basically regular surgery vs. microsurgery.

[ariwl1]

But didn't Jean already learn everything Beast knew about the human/mutant body, before her last death? I thought Jean used that knowledge to reform Emma after her diamond form was shattered? Wouldn't Jean have retained that info?

I wouldn't expect her to. She "learned" to fly a shuttle in 101 from Peter Corbeau right before she became Phoenix and she did it again in Morrison's run right before flying to Asteroid M to (attempt) to rescue Logan.

Oh ****, I forgot about this. That's probably exactly the reason that they namedropped her here. She's already been in the mind of a Celestial before!

It was definitely Tony talking....but when was Jean in a Celestial's mind?

[Harpsikord]

I don't have the issue number on hand but it was one of the last arcs of the O5's X-Factor when they were brought into space by Ship and dealt with a celestial there. Also definitively allowed Jean to have the memories of Dark Phoenix and Madelyne Pryor.

[Hellinoze]

Yep. It was Paul Smith's X-Factor years If I remember well.

[spirit2011]

It's not significant but over in Avengers #2 today Tony namedrops Jean while fighting a bunch of Celestials.

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Hope Jean will guest star for an arc on Avengers

[Phoenixx9]

What does that have to do with anything?

I was wondering why Jean now needed to access additional knowledge of brain pathways if she had prior anatomical knowledge.

[Phoenixx9]

I don't have the issue number on hand but it was one of the last arcs of the O5's X-Factor when they were brought into space by Ship and dealt with a celestial there. Also definitively allowed Jean to have the memories of Dark Phoenix and Madelyne Pryor.

Is that when Jean harnessed the last bit of absorbed Phoenix Force energy from Maddie and blew off the Celestial thumb?

[Havok83]

It was definitely Tony talking....but when was Jean in a Celestial's mind?

You're right. My bad

X-Factor's Judgement war dealt with the team and the Celestials

[Wiccan]

Lol nvm...

[Harpsikord]

Is that when Jean harnessed the last bit of absorbed Phoenix Force energy from Maddie and blew off the Celestial thumb?

It was


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[loke13]

It's not significant but over in Avengers #2 today Tony namedrops Jean while fighting a bunch of Celestials.

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Yessssss!!! "We need JEAN GREY" hell yeah let my girl FLEX on an Avengers title. I would love to see Jean Grey guest starring in a Avengers book for an issue or two. And I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility seeing Jean Grey joining The Avengers roster a year or two down the line.

[Hellinoze]

I was wondering why Jean now needed to access additional knowledge of brain pathways if she had prior anatomical knowledge.

Maybe she looked at Hank's knowledge like we can read a manual. She could figure out the steps, she understood the human body, she put all Emma's pieces in place, and she closed the book. But after that, she didn't retain all this knowledge. She just "read" it in Hank's mind.

[Phoenixx9]

Maybe she looked at Hank's knowledge like we can read a manual. She could figure out the steps, she understood the human body, she put all Emma's pieces in place, and she closed the book. But after that, she didn't retain all this knowledge. She just "read" it in Hank's mind.

Except that Jean is supposed to have an eidetic memory.