POWERS OF X [04] : Something Sinister (SPOILERS)

[cranger]

So I am not convinced the Sinister who made the deal with Xavier and Magneto was an actual mutant, that just came off as a joke. I suspect that the mutant Sinister was something created much more recent, with the discovery of Krakoa, in order to allow Sinister to have a presence there, and Xavier is unaware (at least as far as Sinister thinks).

[Veitha]

So I am not convinced the Sinister who made the deal with Xavier and Magneto was an actual mutant, that just came off as a joke. I suspect that the mutant Sinister was something created much more recent, with the discovery of Krakoa, in order to allow Sinister to have a presence there, and Xavier is unaware (at least as far as Sinister thinks).

I think that it was just one of the many Sinister clones, and that one happened to have a mutant gene. But using it to get in Krakoa is a very nice catch, I hadn't thought about it.

[jwatson]

So I am not convinced the Sinister who made the deal with Xavier and Magneto was an actual mutant, that just came off as a joke. I suspect that the mutant Sinister was something created much more recent, with the discovery of Krakoa, in order to allow Sinister to have a presence there, and Xavier is unaware (at least as far as Sinister thinks).

I believe it because he lied about his mutation. He knew if he told what his actual mutation was(thunderbird) Professor X would have figured it out. Thinking about it, it now makes sense how sinster seems to be able to find anyone given Thunderbird's tracking ability. Wouldn't be surprised if he smelled Moira on Magneto and Xavier and know something is up. Besides it seems like a weird thing to joke about when the joke was the lie about his mutant ability.

[cranger]

I think that it was just one of the many Sinister clones, and that one happened to have a mutant gene. But using it to get in Krakoa is a very nice catch, I hadn't thought about it.

I believe it because he lied about his mutation. He knew if he told what his actual mutation was(thunderbird) Professor X would have figured it out. Thinking about it, it now makes sense how sinster seems to be able to find anyone given Thunderbird's tracking ability. Wouldn't be surprised if he smelled Moira on Magneto and Xavier and know something is up. Besides it seems like a weird thing to joke about when the joke was the lie about his mutant ability.

So I am probably over thinking this. The variation in describing the 'Sinisters' is messing me up, I thought the tyrant-dispelling Sinister and the mutant Sinister were two different ones, but it says the tyrant-dispelling one is the one with the DNA from Thunderbird.

[loke13]

I mean there's also nothing that says that the mutant Sinister was the ONLY mutant Sinister.

[jwatson]

So I am probably over thinking this. The variation in describing the 'Sinisters' is messing me up, I thought the tyrant-dispelling Sinister and the mutant Sinister were two different ones, but it says the tyrant-dispelling one is the one with the DNA from Thunderbird.

The sinister that identified himself as a mutant with the power to topple empires was telling a joke in regard to hiis powers. IN the data sheet it explains his actual mutant power comes from Thunderbird. The first sinister who wanted the cape did not have mutant dna (Well he might have but he didn't like the results.). The tyrant dispelling Sinister is the one who killed the other sinister who said he tried to used the mutant gene but didn't like the results, but he himself wasn't the self-proclaimed tyrant dispelling mutant.

[ExodusCloak]

So I am probably over thinking this. The variation in describing the 'Sinisters' is messing me up, I thought the tyrant-dispelling Sinister and the mutant Sinister were two different ones, but it says the tyrant-dispelling one is the one with the DNA from Thunderbird.

I can't figure out the timeline is sinister supposed to be dead and nor interested in mutants. Thus he hasn't abducted Scott? And he chose Thunderbird as a prototype to place into his genome? And this sinister had no other powers as of yet

[JKtheMac]

So this issue was just OK. Sinister has never been a favourite of mine. Gillen did some interesting things with him but apart from that my heart usually sinks when he is involved. I was pleased to see the database brought back, because many theories, including my own, rely upon that database being important. It is kind of fun that Sinister is persuaded to take extra interest in mutants, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense that he wasn’t already obsessed with them.

The cape jokes seemed a bit tangential.

The riddles were a little strange, but I guess they give us something to do.

The far future material was interesting too. It gives us a little more context about their plan, less subterfuge and more a negotiation. Still feels a little bit like a con to me.

The Krakoa mythology was nice, and Xavier in a pith helmet is always fun. I love the simple and understated “Well. That’s ambitious.” Without so much as an exclamation mark. We now get our second mirrored story, with Krakoa and Phalanx.

[HeartofTheStoriesWeTell]

I can't figure out the timeline is sinister supposed to be dead and nor interested in mutants. Thus he hasn't abducted Scott? And he chose Thunderbird as a prototype to place into his genome? And this sinister had no other powers as of yet

This should be a sinister that already messed with scott and gambit (including time travel gambit) and has given up on making a 'perfect' mutant to fight appocolips...
Btw do NOT tell erik what he was doing in WW2....

All they did was reignite his passion and point him in the direction of where we meet him.

[JKtheMac]

I have only done a quick scan of the thread but has anyone considered that the riddles are all clues to Dawn of X books?

[Triniking1234]

I have only done a quick scan of the thread but has anyone considered that the riddles are all clues to Dawn of X books?

They most likely are.

[Graphicisnovel]

I have only done a quick scan of the thread but has anyone considered that the riddles are all clues to Dawn of X books?

well from my guesses that's what I thought.

# 2 is easilly mondo, which is New Mutants.

One of them says "explosive" reuinion, which I took as Jubilee - that may be Excalibur.

Xmen #1 has the Summers family on the cover - so that would be the Summers clue.

the X-men #2 is fighting an island, so that's the Inferno clue.

The one about a mother and daughter I assumed Rachel and Jean.

[JB]

So Krakoa and Arakko were separated/split, and Arakko was pushed into the chasm. So is Arakko to become what we've known as limbo, and so the original Horsemen have been sentinels keeping it at bay - until - Inferno 2, even maw hotta', incoming!

Woah. If Arakko is Limbo... oh my.

[Mapangahas]

Has anyone here read Jonathan Hickman's S.H.I.E.L.D.? Apocalypse was an easter egg in one of the issues (I think the first issue). Anyone think that would tie up to his X-Men run?

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[CRaymond]

Woah. If Arakko is Limbo... oh my.

It requires us to question why Magik's portals resemble Krakoa's portals.