Originally Posted by
Revolutionary_Jack
I don't want to be in a situation where my liking for them comes at the expense of established characters that I care far more about. Whether it's the X-Men or Spider-Man. I mean I like Wolverine but I have always disliked Owsley's Spider-Man V. Wolverine #1 because it's a story that start-to-finish has Spider-Man being humiliated at Wolverine's expense and doesn't say anything aside from that. I know Wolverine's a badass and so on...I also know he's a runt who was mostly tolerated with clenched teeth for a lot of the X-Men run and not perfect. I think a team-up where both of them bring their mutual strengths and weaknesses in the tradition of average buddy-cop movie is expected from any team-up.
The Avengers and for that matter Tony was fine and entertaining enough when it was them being a bunch of second-stringers coming together (the Roger Stern run), or Tony was a screwup (Michelinie run, Shane Black's Iron Man 3) but when you introduce Spider-Man as an uncritical Iron Man fanboy and repeat bromides that work well for Tony but is total nonsense for Peter ("nothing without the suit"...so happy to know that a spider didn't give Peter any powers and there's an actual switch he can turn on/off)...and passed with a straight face, then it sours my overall enjoyment. RDJ's Tony doesn't need this shilling nor does Spider-Man.
Not to mention having to put up with defenses of Tony giving Peter his classic suit with the explanation from sundry fans, "Of course poor people can't create stuff". I mean I have literally seen that. I think there is an unhealthy message being communicated there, unintended subtext about class and so on.