Also, Happy 50th Page to Jean Grey and January 2022 is not even over yet!
Also, Happy 50th Page to Jean Grey and January 2022 is not even over yet!
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
Dark does not mean deep.
Sure. It's super iconic, why not? So being used because of a flashback, or because Jean is feeling playful or because it might have some other significance (like in the DPS) would be great, especially if the artist is trying to get the proportions right and the costume is looking good.
Those images are great. You are right it can look good depending on the artist.
I think if Jean had remained in the Marvel Girl dress post Phoenix Resurrection it would have made sense, because the mini ended with Jean back in the Marvel Girl look. It just didn't make sense to me for her being in the costume after X-men Red. While I also had issues with the X-men Red costume it was a stronger look for Jean. I felt Jean had an evolution in X-men Red and then it reverted in the current era. Which this also makes sense because in the X-men Red era Jean didn't have Cyclops, Wolverine, or Xavier. It was Jean forging her own path and her own vision. That felt great at the time, and I'm still sad because it didn't last long enough. It was nice seeing Jean without the others (and even without the Phoenix as much as it pains me to say but I didn't expect her to retain it).
Jean's main themes revolve around her powers, her relationships, and the Phoenix. It is really no wonder these are the most common areas where we disagree on this forum. While sometimes we disagree, at least we do have a common appreciation for the X-men and this character in particular.
I really am enjoying Duggan's version of Jean. As much as I loved her being on X-force (because it was something different) and being on the Quiet Council, it rings true to the character that she would be an X-man and she would fight for not only Krakoa but the world. I love that Scott and Jean reformed the X-men and that they get to go on big adventures. I definitely want more quiet character moments, but I also want Jean to have more of an action role too. I'm keeping expectations at a moderate level, but I hope to see Jean in action in the issues after X-men #7.
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."
I don’t think the dress would have made sense after her resurrection story either, but I do agree it would have made more sense than *after* she got a new costume for X-Men: Red.
I like the dress as a historical piece. It’s a bit like Jean in the X-Factor: I *love* how Louise Simonson wrote her, but I wouldn’t want a current writer to try to emulate it. It made sense for the character then, it wouldn’t make sense after everything she’s lived. I can cherish that era as part of her past.
So I’m glad the dress is going away. I think the modified Hellfire Gala costume is good enough. Honestly, I don’t care much about it. Jean can make anything work and I’m more interested in her characterization.
At the same time, I just don’t have energy to care about anything in this Krakoa era anymore. I see some big, structural problems that have been around since its inception and I don’t think things are going to improve significantly when most of the creators are still the same and they don’t seem to see the issues.
So I prefer not to comment about anything in specific because I don’t want to drag anyone down. I’m happy for the fans who are enjoying it.
Last edited by Gnostic; 01-22-2022 at 11:36 AM.
Just a few tweaks I did:
1. The bodysuit looks better in a very dark grey
2. I put the pentagon on her headpiece
3. I removed the X on the abdomen as it feels redundant. The green part of the torso should stretch down a little more below the belly button
4. I feel like the X boots should be calves length (think Morrison era) instead of ankle to breakup the leg more, but that’s just me.
5. I colored the X above her chest gold to match the X’s on her X-boots.
Last edited by Mercury; 01-22-2022 at 12:40 PM.
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."
omg. I just thought of an interesting alteration, Marvelboy1974. Keep the black and make the triangular torso area ribbed—either grey, gold, or green—to really tip the hat to Morrison-era Jean. It looks so rad the way I’m picturing it.
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."
Here are some patterns to inspire you. Maybe you can use them; you just have to flip and make the lines go horizontally. And the gold X on the waist would look fantastic with this combo.
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."
I couldn’t help myself. A very rough sketch…
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."