New Code-Names for Kon El and Tim Drake

[Mutant God]

Tim - Black Pigeon
Kon - Super Mortal

[Digifiend]

Using Steel would be a bad choice and a PR nightmare, in my opinion. I really wouldn't want him to take Guardian either but in my opinion it would be the only one I think that could stick and actually work for the character. If he took someone else's name.

He should just get a new name altogether. But if that road is taken is all I'm saying.

Guardian is a Marvel character - he's a member of Alpha Flight. Snowguard of the Champions got her name by combining Snowbird's and Guardian's.

[MajorHoy]

Wouldnt say that:

1. Nightwing is depicted as the male one and Flamebird as the female one of the two..

Oh, really?

It's ALWAYS been that way?

. . . 3. I know that there was already Bette Kane as Flamebird BUT!! I personally would like to see more a Kryptonian Character in this role, since its tied to Krypton and I find it hard to find another Codename for Conner

Meet Jimmy Olsen: a Kryptonian female?

Guardian is a Marvel character - he's a member of Alpha Flight. Snowguard of the Champions got her name by combining Snowbird's and Guardian's.

[Thor-Ul]

I think that the Protector would be a better name for Kon.

RIP, original Protector.You deserved better than Heroes in Crisis.

He is not the only one.

On Kon And Tim...
For Kon, I think he should use his kryptonian name Kon-El as Nom de guerre. We have the Kon-El example.
For Tim, he could go by Redwing. Is a name not currently used and kinda have relation to "Robin".

[MajorHoy]

. . . For Tim, he could go by Redwing. Is a name not currently used and kinda have relation to "Robin".

From another thread:

Redwing is Sam Wilson's (Marvel's The Falcon) bird companion.
The Redwing name had also been used by DC for a female member of the Team Titans back in the 90s.

[Flash Gordon]

Kid Superman for Kon, but in story he just refers to himself as "Superman" (to which everyone laughs).

[lemonpeace]

For Tim I'd say Rook
For Conner I'd just go with Conner Kent, the Metropolis Kid

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I agree with the name Rook for Tim.

[MajorHoy]

I agree with the name Rook for Tim.

Rook was an old Warren comic magazine character who has been brought back more recently. (By Dark Horse I think?)

[Restingvoice]

TimKon

Jokes aside the Tim thread mentioned the Scarlet Spectre which I love but if we have to go with bird theme how about Scarlet Sparrow

The term Metropolis Kid inspired me to make the name Metro Man, though these days it also sounds like someone with a subway-themed costume

I've considered Super Youth but it doesn't flow well. Superlad sounds like a nickname.

Has anyone taken Powerman or Ultraboy?

[Masterff]

Oh, really?

It's ALWAYS been that way?

Meet Jimmy Olsen: a Kryptonian female?

Didnt say that....
BUT
1. is tied to Krypton, so its one of the few things which could give Conner a tie to Krypton,
2. in 99% of the Cases Flamebird WAS female, as original Goddess, as Bette Kane and also as Chris Kents Partner

He is not the only one.

On Kon And Tim...
For Kon, I think he should use his kryptonian name Kon-El as Nom de guerre. We have the Kon-El example.
For Tim, he could go by Redwing. Is a name not currently used and kinda have relation to "Robin".

Doesnt work:
1. Kon-El is to close to Conner
2. For a successful Comic-Book series is simply to uncool etc. to call the Main-Character Kon-El if the Franchise should reach the same Numbers as Batman,Flash,Superman....

For Tim I'd say Rook
For Conner I'd just go with Conner Kent, the Metropolis Kid

He is to old for Kid etc.

I would go with:

-Flamebird
-Steel Eagle
-Steel Titan
-Helios
-Valor (Mon-El didnt use this name anymore or?)
-Sentinel (was used by Alan Scott once)
-Steel Hammer
-Saviour
-Beast Slayer
-Doom Slayer
-Steel Phoenix

[king81992]

Didnt say that....
BUT
1. is tied to Krypton, so its one of the few things which could give Conner a tie to Krypton,
2. in 99% of the Cases Flamebird WAS female, as original Goddess, as Bette Kane and also as Chris Kents Partner



Doesnt work:
1. Kon-El is to close to Conner
2. For a successful Comic-Book series is simply to uncool etc. to call the Main-Character Kon-El if the Franchise should reach the same Numbers as Batman,Flash,Superman....



He is to old for Kid etc.

I would go with:

-Flamebird
-Steel Eagle
-Steel Titan
-Helios
-Valor (Mon-El didnt use this name anymore or?)
-Sentinel (was used by Alan Scott once)
-Steel Hammer
-Saviour
-Beast Slayer
-Doom Slayer
-Steel Phoenix

I'd avoid the name Beast Slayer, it might give the higher ups at DC ideas about having Kon kill Beast Boy.

[Lee]

The problem they're trying to solve is multiple characters having the same name. Reusing existing names would only compound the problem.

Has it been confirmed that Conner will be dropping the Superboy name, and not Jon?

[MajorHoy]

Didnt say that....
BUT
1. is tied to Krypton, so its one of the few things which could give Conner a tie to Krypton,
2. in 99% of the Cases Flamebird WAS female, as original Goddess, as Bette Kane and also as Chris Kents Partner

But the ORIGINAL Flamebird was a non-Kryptonian male, and the second person to use that name was also a male: Ak-Var from the bottle city of Kandor, who was married to the niece of Van-Zee (the second person to assume the Nightwing identity).



So the idea of a male taking the name of Flamebird definitely has precedence, and the name doesn't have to be considered used "99%" by females because the first time it was really used for a female character's alter ego didn't happen until about a quarter of a century after the identity was first introduced.

[Gero4568]

Tim: Red Robin (It works, he's done it, he should continue with it).
Kon-El: Supernova.