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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
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    I really didn't like that they killed Urich off. I understand that they wanted to up the threat going into the finale, but I thought Urich was a character they could have used in later seasons. Really enjoyed the actor and the way he brought an older perspective to the narrative, which counter-balanced the younger trio well.
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    Urich could have been used in other franchises as well. He has close ties to Jessica Jones and Spider-Man who Marvel can now use. It was a huge mistake to kill him off imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
    Can a Daredevil fan explain Stick to me though? I knew that he was Daredevil's mentor and has a connection to the Hand (rivals, yes?). But why does he also seem to have Daredevil's enhanced senses?
    It's never been told, but implied that he's just really good at fighting. I don't think he has the same abilities as Matt, he's just been fighting since his youth. Now that I think about it, nobody has ever really elaborated on Stick's background. I used to think I could never write a good DD story since Miller, Nocenti, Bendis, and Brubaker have "done it all" but I guess they haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
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    I really didn't like that they killed Urich off. I understand that they wanted to up the threat going into the finale, but I thought Urich was a character they could have used in later seasons. Really enjoyed the actor and the way he brought an older perspective to the narrative, which counter-balanced the younger trio well.
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    Yeah that really pissed me off too, Urich is too important to the mythos.

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    that last scene with Daredevil & Sergeant after Fisk got his ass kicked reminded me of Bruce & Jim Gordon a bit, the flashbacks throughout the whole season reminded me of Arrow but other than that I felt everything else was pretty creative I loved the show definitely 10/10 good mix of action with a good plot they didnt let the sub plots get too complex and takeover the overall story so thats always a plus. I feel like if this was in Sony hands the sub plots would have been all over the place & ruined the story *cough* (The Amazing Spiderman 2) *cough* lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Toward the end of Frank Miller's run on Daredevil Stick explains to Matt that the chemicals that blinded him didn't give him his heighten senses. He tells that all humans have the capacity of having those heighten senses but they deteriorated over time. All the chemicals did was let it loose.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    It's never been told, but implied that he's just really good at fighting. I don't think he has the same abilities as Matt, he's just been fighting since his youth. Now that I think about it, nobody has ever really elaborated on Stick's background. I used to think I could never write a good DD story since Miller, Nocenti, Bendis, and Brubaker have "done it all" but I guess they haven't.
    Got you. Thanks to both of you for the info.

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    Starting the finale. This show has been one hell of a roller coaster ride.
    Marvel Pull - Fantastic Four, The Immortal Hulk
    DC Pull - The Green Lantern, Goddess Mode
    Indie Pull - The Wrong Earth, High Heaven

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    Well done, Marvel. Well done.

    I know it would never happen but I would actually prefer Marvel to do this with all of their properties. It really helps flesh the characters out, in particular the supporting cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    It's never been told, but implied that he's just really good at fighting. I don't think he has the same abilities as Matt, he's just been fighting since his youth. Now that I think about it, nobody has ever really elaborated on Stick's background. I used to think I could never write a good DD story since Miller, Nocenti, Bendis, and Brubaker have "done it all" but I guess they haven't.
    IIRC he does have Daredevil's RADAR sense(in addition to other esoteric martial artsy powers) and made mention that anyone can develop it with proper training, Matt's accident just jump started his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
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    Urich could have been used in other franchises as well. He has close ties to Jessica Jones and Spider-Man who Marvel can now use. It was a huge mistake to kill him off imo
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    I wonder if they did it bc they want Jessica Jones to take the role of press/investigator in the team. It's possible, albeit unlikely, that Jessica Jones could still have her connection with Urich, via flashbacks or AKA Jessica Jones having bits take place before Daredevil.
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    Anyone have any idea what the black skies is?

    an inhuman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
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    I really didn't like that they killed Urich off. I understand that they wanted to up the threat going into the finale, but I thought Urich was a character they could have used in later seasons. Really enjoyed the actor and the way he brought an older perspective to the narrative, which counter-balanced the younger trio well.
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    It might be immature of me, but I got so frustrated that they did that! He was a perfect Ben Urich, and I wanted to see more of him. I didn't think he would get killed. I mean, he hadn't even figured out Daredevil's secret identity. I really liked the show, but I think my frustration over that might be keeping me from really loving it.

    I mean I loved the way the momentum of the show was carrying through after episode 8, but I felt like I hit a brick wall all of a sudden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
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    I really didn't like that they killed Urich off. I understand that they wanted to up the threat going into the finale, but I thought Urich was a character they could have used in later seasons. Really enjoyed the actor and the way he brought an older perspective to the narrative, which counter-balanced the younger trio well.
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    Yeah, I was a bit taken aback by that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    MCU doesn't always follow the comics 100%. This series got the Owl as a pencil pusher than a crime boss.
    Well, that guy wasn't really supposed to be the Owl (although he was a great character and Bob Gunton gave a great performance). But his son, also presumably named Leland Owlsley (Leland referred to him as "Lee) may well end up becoming the Owl, motivated by the fact that spoilers:
    Fisk killed his father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalorama View Post
    Well, that guy wasn't really supposed to be the Owl (although he was a great character and Bob Gunton gave a great performance). But his son, also presumably named Leland Owlsley (Leland referred to him as "Lee) may well end up becoming the Owl, motivated by the fact that spoilers:
    Fisk killed his father.
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    I was kinda hoping for that with Urich when Fisk killed him in episode 12. Then his wife said that they had no kids and it killed that idea. I guess they can use Phil but it won't be the same.
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    Ohhhhh, dat ending. vincent D'onofrio's Fisk makes The Governor from The Walking Dead look like a preschooler on a sugar high. I just realized I'm going to have to wait another year for Season 2, and now I feel sad. I hope the Jessica Jones show matches the quality for this one.
    "A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.

    Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.

    No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.

    (You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)

    You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.

    Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."

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