Cover Contest Sept. 26th - Oct 2nd; "Marvel-ous" Marie Severin

[Shalla Bal]

Women cleaning up after men even in the Silver Age comics industry. Typical!

During that time, Severin, Romita Sr. and John Verpoorten were part of Marvel's production staff, so they did the bulk of the art corrections/alterations.

ETA
And I see I have not yet submitted a cover for this week's contest! Stay tuned...

[comicscollector]

[LordMikel]

I pity the fool who doesn't vote for this cover.

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[Enigmatic Undead]

Captain Marvel #10 (1968)

[Jack Dracula]

This site has a list that might be helpful

http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/mik.../newsstand.php

You can search by creator on this site as well.

[icctrombone]

The Cat cover was inked my Severin but obviously penciled by the great Wally Wood. I guess inking counts as a cover by her.

[icctrombone]

This is one of the first comics I remember owning.

[Kirby101]

Icctrombone, that is John Severin inking Herb Trimpe.

[Kirby101]

The Cat cover was inked my Severin but obviously penciled by the great Wally Wood. I guess inking counts as a cover by her.

I think it might be the other way around. But either way it is allowed.

[Jack Dracula]

Pardon my ignorance folks, but I've seen separate credits for both "Penciller" and "Artist."
Is the distinction that, the "Penciller" credit goes to someone if they did the rough sketch only with others inking and coloring, but "Artist" goes to someone who did all three?

[Shalla Bal]

Pardon my ignorance folks, but I've seen separate credits for both "Penciller" and "Artist."
Is the distinction that, the "Penciller" credit goes to someone if they did the rough sketch only with others inking and coloring, but "Artist" goes to someone who did all three?

The colorist is not included in the Penciler or Artist credit.

Penciler usually meant someone who did tight/full/complete pencils, which were then inked (so the inker would get a straightforward Inker credit).

Artist

• If only one person is named, then Artist meant someone who did both the penciling and inking.
• If someone is credited as Artist but there is also a separate person who is credited as (usually) Embellisher or Finisher, than that means the Artist provided loose, rough pencils/breakdowns/layouts, which were then embellished or finished by the inker. The inker would be credited as Emebellisher or Finisher. Finishing or embellishing looser pencils required more work than just inking over full pencils, so the pay rate for embellishing and finishing was higher.

(This is based on 1960s-80s Marvel. May have been different in other companies and later on)

Related:
Sometimes you'd see a layouts person, a penciler and an inker, as in the case of all those comics Kirby laid out in the '60s. This meant Kirby did loosh-ish pencils or layouts... someone else penciled over those... and a third person then inked. Example: Cap story in Tales of Suspense: #77: layouts by Kirby, pencils by Romita, inks by Giacoia.

[Shalla Bal]

I think it might be the other way around. But either way it is allowed.

Yes, it was penciled by Severin (Marie) and inked by Wood, as you said.

A good (print) resource is the TwoMorrows book about her.

[Shalla Bal]

Have always loved this cover: the details, the atmosphere

[Shalla Bal]

http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/mik.../newsstand.php

You can search by creator on this site as well.

Mike, the site's creator, has said he stopped updating the site in 2017...so some of its creator credits are not up to date.

But it's still an invaluable site, especially its Newsstand feature.

[Jack Dracula]

The colorist is not included in the Penciler or Artist credit.

Penciler usually meant someone who did tight/full/complete pencils, which were then inked (so the inker would get a straightforward Inker credit).

Artist

• If only one person is named, then Artist meant someone who did both the penciling and inking.
• If someone is credited as Artist but there is also a separate person who is credited as (usually) Embellisher or Finisher, than that means the Artist provided loose, rough pencils/breakdowns/layouts, which were then embellished or finished by the inker. The inker would be credited as Emebellisher or Finisher. Finishing or embellishing looser pencils required more work than just inking over full pencils, so the pay rate for embellishing and finishing was higher.

(This is based on 1960s-80s Marvel. May have been different in other companies and later on)

Related:
Sometimes you'd see a layouts person, a penciler and an inker, as in the case of all those comics Kirby laid out in the '60s. This meant Kirby did loosh-ish pencils or layouts... someone else penciled over those... and a third person then inked. Example: Cap story in Tales of Suspense: #77: layouts by Kirby, pencils by Romita, inks by Giacoia.

Thanks for the clarification Shalla.

Mike, the site's creator, has said he stopped updating the site in 2017...so some of its creator credits are not up to date.

But it's still an invaluable site, especially its Newsstand feature.

And thanks for this as well.