All New Marvel Collected Editions

[Garuda]

You all joke, but I am pretty annoyed about nearly everything about this omnibus:

- This material getting an omnibus when there is no omnibus touching it on either side
- This material getting an omnibus while Kelly/Seagle is coming out in trades
- That we're supposed to pretend that Marvel will release the trash odds-and-ends OHC that gets us from here to New X-Men
- The omnibus skipping Dark Seduction, which is Revolution-branded
- That a certain collections editor randomly decided that X-Men Forever fits differently into the reading order than it does before
- The fugly cover

I own all of these issues already and would merrily bind them myself in the order I think is right.

If Marvel truly plans to go all-in on a completely continuous OHC run of post-Onslaught X-Men and expect us to believe them I think it's time they took the Shang-Chi approach to communicate their planned map and schedule ahead of time. Otherwise, my confidence level is not high.

I doubt that many people, including die-hard Claremont fans, think that this omnibus is Claremont's greatest work. However, we know that there are enough Claremont/X-Men fans who will buy it regardless of quality (see last year's Marvel Universe by Chris Claremont OHC) so it makes commercial sense for Marvel to collect all of the Claremont material in one place - think of it as being like a 'bad bank' where the most toxic assets are held separately. And this way, the less toxic assets can be shifted into potential pre- and post-Revolution omnibuses.

Of course, it may be that I'm being a bit selfish here since I'd prefer that Dark Seduction and X-Men Forever are collected at the back of a potential Alan Davis Omnibus since that's the only omnibus I'd buy from this era...

[grahamgg]

the "boob sock" top on Rogue and Phoenix

LOL ... this is hilarious.

X-MEN: REVOLUTION BY CHRIS CLAREMONT OMNIBUS Cover by ART ADAMS:

This is almost Liefeld-bad ... Colossus must be, what, 10 feet tall or standing on a step ladder! Also is he made entirely of steel cables? Shoulder pads galore! Why is Cable wearing Cyclops' visor as a neckerchief? Where did Kitty Pryde get a FREAKING WOLVERINE CLAW (?!) from? Is this the X-Men Forever connection? She had a claw there but I thought that was a what if type story? Psylocke with Rambo head-band and one boob bigger than the other like an over-milked nanny goat. It's mostly universally cheesy. And the Beast's tiny head and skull cap. Sheesh.

You all joke, but I am pretty annoyed about nearly everything about this omnibus:

- This material getting an omnibus when there is no omnibus touching it on either side
- This material getting an omnibus while Kelly/Seagle is coming out in trades
- That we're supposed to pretend that Marvel will release the trash odds-and-ends OHC that gets us from here to New X-Men
- The omnibus skipping Dark Seduction, which is Revolution-branded
- That a certain collections editor randomly decided that X-Men Forever fits differently into the reading order than it does before
- The fugly cover

I own all of these issues already and would merrily bind them myself in the order I think is right.

If Marvel truly plans to go all-in on a completely continuous OHC run of post-Onslaught X-Men and expect us to believe them I think it's time they took the Shang-Chi approach to communicate their planned map and schedule ahead of time. Otherwise, my confidence level is not high.

Yeah ... this was about as out-of-left-field a choice for a new Omnibus book as Muppet Babies. I wonder if Marvel is going out of their way to try & appease Claremont + Byrne? I mean we've seen much of their work get collected in HC the past few years, with a ton of trash collected along the way. I'm specifically thinking of the Marvel Universe by Claremont and Marvel Universe by Byrne HC books. Forgettable stuff mostly. Well, that's just being nice. It's mostly dreck. Byrne's stuff was okay but 90% of it had already been collected elsewhere. And there's been rumors for years that Marvel keeps Claremont on contract retainer, but doesn't actually have him WRITE anything, so maybe this is how they pay him ... by re-releasing any-and-everything of his work they have in back-stock no matter how good or terrible (or relevant to today's work) it actually is.

[jm21]

LOL ... this is hilarious.



This is almost Liefeld-bad ... Colossus must be, what, 10 feet tall or standing on a step ladder! Also is he made entirely of steel cables? Shoulder pads galore! Why is Cable wearing Cyclops' visor as a neckerchief? Where did Kitty Pryde get a FREAKING WOLVERINE CLAW (?!) from? Is this the X-Men Forever connection? She had a claw there but I thought that was a what if type story? Psylocke with Rambo head-band and one boob bigger than the other like an over-milked nanny goat. It's mostly universally cheesy. And the Beast's tiny head and skull cap. Sheesh.



Yeah ... this was about as out-of-left-field a choice for a new Omnibus book as Muppet Babies. I wonder if Marvel is going out of their way to try & appease Claremont + Byrne? I mean we've seen much of their work get collected in HC the past few years, with a ton of trash collected along the way. I'm specifically thinking of the Marvel Universe by Claremont and Marvel Universe by Byrne HC books. Forgettable stuff mostly. Well, that's just being nice. It's mostly dreck. Byrne's stuff was okay but 90% of it had already been collected elsewhere. And there's been rumors for years that Marvel keeps Claremont on contract retainer, but doesn't actually have him WRITE anything, so maybe this is how they pay him ... by re-releasing any-and-everything of his work they have in back-stock no matter how good or terrible (or relevant to today's work) it actually is.

In fairness, I didn't mind Cable's design at the time. Cyclops was dead following The Twelve storyline and the '"neckerchief" was his homage to his Dad.
I don't get the Shadowcat claw use though. Appreciate Wolverine got some of his bone claws smashed off (by Cyber?), but why Kitty would feel the need to use it as an effective weapon!?!

[jm21]

Whilst this is the weakest material, it does give me hope that we'll get X-Treme X-Men Omnibus vol.1&2, and Uncanny X-Men:The New Age Omnibus (including Excalibur vol.2) all of which is Claremont material I enjoyed.

[krisis]

I doubt that many people, including die-hard Claremont fans, think that this omnibus is Claremont's greatest work. However, we know that there are enough Claremont/X-Men fans who will buy it regardless of quality (see last year's Marvel Universe by Chris Claremont OHC) so it makes commercial sense for Marvel to collect all of the Claremont material in one place - think of it as being like a 'bad bank' where the most toxic assets are held separately. And this way, the less toxic assets can be shifted into potential pre- and post-Revolution omnibuses.

Of course, it may be that I'm being a bit selfish here since I'd prefer that Dark Seduction and X-Men Forever are collected at the back of a potential Alan Davis Omnibus since that's the only omnibus I'd buy from this era...

See, I feel like that's all the more reason to pack in other semi-related periodic stuff into the Claremont book - because it's OBVIOUSLY going to sell better than the book without his name.

Whilst this is the weakest material, it does give me hope that we'll get X-Treme X-Men Omnibus vol.1&2, and Uncanny X-Men:The New Age Omnibus (including Excalibur vol.2) all of which is Claremont material I enjoyed.

Indeed, X-Treme X-Men is also a way better choice than this material as is New Age!

[jm21]

How much Claremont is actually left to collect?

The obvious "Most Wanted" material is 5 books:
Uncanny X-Men Omnibus vol.4
New Mutants by Claremont Omnibus
X-Men: Crossroads OHC
X-Men: Before the Fall OHC
Excalibur by Claremont & Davis Omnibus

Now we're getting X-Men Revolution Omnibus, that leads into 3 more:
X-Treme X-Men vol.1-2
Uncanny X-Men: The New Age (although I do see the merit splitting this to pre-/post-HoM)

Post-HoM, I'd love a New Excalibur / Exiles by Claremont Omnibus (New Excalibur #1-24, Exiles #90-100, X-Men: Die by the Sword #1-5) and a New Exiles OHC / Omnibus

So that would be 10-11 books, 5 of which must be a certainty at some point?
Are there any other big Claremont collections worth an Omnibus?

[FlashingSabre]

They need to reprint/remake Inferno at some point. (Why the hell is it more expensive than Claremont&Lee 1 and 2 COMBINED?!)

There's also his Nightcrawler run.

[jm21]

They need to reprint/remake Inferno at some point. (Why the hell is it more expensive than Claremont&Lee 1 and 2 COMBINED?!)

There's also his Nightcrawler run.

Oww, good call - a Nightcrawler OHC would be great.

[Captain Craig]

Nightcrawler was only 12 issues, right?
Was it good?

[bearded_adam]

Nightcrawler was only 12 issues, right?
Was it good?

yep, 12 issues. Old-old-old-fashioned even for my x-fans friends.

[TomSlick]

yep, 12 issues. Old-old-old-fashioned even for my x-fans friends.

Does that include the four issue mini in the 1980s?

[Captain Craig]

Does that include the four issue mini in the 1980s?

Must not. I was in a hurry earlier, just went over to ComicVine and it's 12 issues.
Now, if they included the 80's 4 issue mini and say maybe Nightcrawlers origin issue + 2-3 other Nightcrawler centric X-Men story arcs that would possibly be an Omni I'd look into getting.

[Orf with his head]

Must not. I was in a hurry earlier, just went over to ComicVine and it's 12 issues.
Now, if they included the 80's 4 issue mini and say maybe Nightcrawlers origin issue + 2-3 other Nightcrawler centric X-Men story arcs that would possibly be an Omni I'd look into getting.

There’s also the Nightcrawler series from the noughties (16 or 19 issues, cannot remember to be exact) which could bulk everything up to one large OHC/omnibus

[Captain Craig]

Volume 1
Giant Size X-Men #1 (1975) - origin issue
Nightcrawler (1985) - 4 issues first mini
Nightcrawler (2002) - 4 issues Icon event mini-series
Nightcrawler (2004) - 12 issues vol.1 ongoing
This is 21 issues.
Include NC centric stories from 80s-90s to fill issues and get up to 35-40 issues.

Volume 2
Amazing X-Men #1-6(2014) - 6 issues "Quest for Nightcrawler"
Nightcrawler (2014) - 12 issues vol.2 ongoing
This is 18 issues.
Include NC centric issues from 2005 to present from X-Men stories to get up to 30-35 issues

Mapping isn't my strong suit but this could be a start.

[jm21]

Volume 1
Giant Size X-Men #1 (1975) - origin issue
Nightcrawler (1985) - 4 issues first mini
Nightcrawler (2002) - 4 issues Icon event mini-series
Nightcrawler (2004) - 12 issues vol.1 ongoing
This is 21 issues.
Include NC centric stories from 80s-90s to fill issues and get up to 35-40 issues.

Volume 2
Amazing X-Men #1-6(2014) - 6 issues "Quest for Nightcrawler"
Nightcrawler (2014) - 12 issues vol.2 ongoing
This is 18 issues.
Include NC centric issues from 2005 to present from X-Men stories to get up to 30-35 issues

Mapping isn't my strong suit but this could be a start.

I really enjoyed the whole run of Amazing X-Men - I'd have happily snapped an OHC of it up!

Good suggestion with Nightcrawler. Are there any other characters anyone would like to see a collection for?
The incoming Carnage and Venomnibus got me thinking about Magneto and Sabretooth. There must be a good amount of non-X material in various titles for both to collect a decent OHC or Omnibus.

I know there's a lot of x-double dipping, but the following is all the key Magneto material from his childhood to X-Men v.2 (thanks Krisis):
X-Men: Magneto Testament (2008) #1-5
Marvel Comics Presents Vol. 2 (2007) #3 (2nd story)
X-Men (1963) #1 & 4-6
Avengers (1963) #47-49 > X-Men (1963) #43-45 > Avengers (1963) #53
X-Men (1963) #62-63
Fantastic Four (1961) #102-104
Avengers (1963) #110-111
Uncanny X-Men (1963) #111-113 & 150
Marvel Graphic Novel (1982) #5: X-Men – God Loves, Man Kills
Secret Wars #1-2
Uncanny X-Men #199-200
New Mutants (1st series) #49, 51, & 74-75
Captain America (1968) #366-367
Uncanny X-Men (1981) #269 & 274-275
X-Men Vol. 2 (1991) #1-3

Good Omnibus size!