Ed Brubaker made similar "plausible deniability" in the back pages of Criminal when "Bad Weekend" was coming out in singles. The artist character is clearly inspired by Gil Kane. Of course, it makes sense seeing as a lot of these stories are played up for dramatic effect and I'm sure the families of these men probably wouldn't appreciate their loved ones being portrayed as "bad" people.
Also, Baker died in 59, while Whitman is still with us into the 90s or later.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
Read #6, it was a little anti-climatic. I don't know what I was expecting but the story just sorta stops rather than ends. Having said that, I wouldn't mind another volume if not two. There's another 30-ish years that are ripe for commentary. I'd like to see his take on the rise of the 80's indies, Gatlin working in Hollywood, and the weird state of the direct market now.
Last edited by ed2962; 10-29-2021 at 07:44 PM.
I believe the seeming anti-climax of the story was sort of the whole point. The creators see what has become of the industry, and they feel disillusioned about their careers and lives. The saga ends not with a bang but with a whimper. (A whole lot of whimpering, actually.)
Do you mean the guy at the convention at the end? I thought he was a stand in for John Byrne or Jim Lee. Byrne infamously talked about being happy to be a cog in the Marvel machine and suggested that if there's creator's rights there should be creator's "wrongs" but a couple of years after benefited greatly from new royalty programs at DC/Marvel and talked how editors at both companies tried to harness his vision and started to take a very individualistic stand.
Last edited by ed2962; 10-31-2021 at 08:01 AM.
I've read old interviews with Neal Adams that suggested he got hip real quick to how exploitive the comic book industry could be. He was doing work in syndicated strips and commercial advertising art at the same that he was doing comic book stuff and saw that he was getting offered either benefits or better pay in those other industries.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
Anybody reading volume 3?
Who is "Curt Powell", who can't afford to buy back his own artwork for the Daredevil cover? Miller, Janson...? Is this a true story?
Last edited by Kay; 07-16-2023 at 03:30 PM.
Hmm...I plan to read it but it might be a couple of months before I order it ( I'm still catching up to comics from 6 months ago). But from what I know about comics history and the way you describe it... if the scene is set in the 80's it's hard for me to guess it's Frank Miller ( although I could be wrong )? For all his complaints about mainstream comics industry, I don't think I've ever heard him complain that he personally wasn't fairly compensated. He's usually talked about censorship or problems with the market or how we need to compensate the older generation.
Some of the characters are one to one, like Ray Clarke is Gil Kane. Some are combos of several comic personalities.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!