Originally Posted by
Killerbee911
As X-men comic book fan I get highly annoyed at people when they overpraise Fox X-men movies did they make some good movies? Yes but tone is not only thing a fan should care about. X-men movie should try it's hard to carry the spirit of the storyline even though you are adapting the material make sense live action. In the nearly 20 years at Fox never at any point (not even easter egg) put any of Classic X-men teams together show up on the screen NOT The 05 X-men, Uncanny All new different X-men, X-men cartoon squad, or Blue and Gold. Fox jack up continuity horribly and they had to soft reboot twice and used people like Jubilee, Havok, Angel, Psylocke, Darwin way wrong. Fox didn't care about classic friendship(wolverine and Nightcrawler), family connections(Mystique,Rogue and Nightcrawler) of the X-men or general feel of unity(X-men baseball games and dinners). Tone,Maturity and Seriousness. Where was the X-men? Not just Wolverine,Magneto, Xavier, Mystique over and over.They are good reason beyond Tone that people want movies in Marvel hand.
Secondly Fox hasn't shown any consistency in overall quality movie making.Are all MCU movies the greatest? No but 17 out of 18 movies are at least average with Thor Dark World being the one stinker.You can count on Marvel to put out a competent movie that isn't going to kill the franchise. Fox X-men franchise has no trilogy of movies around the same level quality each film
X1,X2(Good) and X3(Bad)
Wolverine Origins(Bad) The Wolverine(Decent) Logan(Amazing)
First Class(good) Doftp(Great) Apocalypse(Bad)
Bad movies kill franchises,We should have Green Lantern, Superman, Batman and Flash movies but since they release one bad movie and DC becomes hesitant to put 150 to 200 million for a movie to fail again. What are the odds that Dark Phoenix or New Mutants will suck badly? Deadpool has been the one consistent series do you have faith that Fox wouldn't have found a way to jack up it? Marvel focuses on comedy and action too much? Maybe but Thor Dark World easily the worst Marvel movie had 173 million dollar budget and made 644 million dollars. If you make the experience fun for the customer in the theater,You can slip mediocre movie out there and make a profit and Venom proves this isn't just a MCU phenoma.
Lastly Fox has just as much if not more Studio meddling as MCU
-It is documented that Ryan Reynolds(and Kevin Fegie) complained about the stupid Deadpool sewn mouth thing,Wanted to back out of the film but they threaten to take away role from him for the actual Deadpool movie so he stayed on.
-They made the director of Wolverine put in the stupid CGI silver samurai when he didn't want to
-New Mutants they agree to make a horror movie, Then they change the idea on director ,no we want you make a young adult film,He goes along with this,The early reviews came back bad but horror beats worked, So went back reshoot with more horror elements.
- Add bunch of stupid stuff Wolverine origins to make a big summer blockbuster,The director had more serious tone in mind for the film
Much of Fox success in tone is by sheer luck. They want to make big fun blockbuster movies like the MCU but they have sucked(X-3, Wolverine Origins). So they were forced to soft reboot and go in a different direction and actually made two good movies.So you think they would stick with that serious tone formula nope.They made X-men Apocalypse after they made DoFTP and Logan. Logan is a fluke because they push both Wolverine to PG 13 because studio wisdom that is how you make the most money.And would have probably done the same without Deadpool being released and being a big success. Because DP was so successful it allowed the Logan team to make a movie without executive bs that messed with the first two. I already mention they nearly push Reynolds away and everyone knows DP story it was sitting in development hell, Someone leak the Rated R test footage and Fox decided to finally put it into play when fans loved it.Without the footage Deadpool might not have been released and even if it was release it doesn't get the R rating. Fox isn't some bastion of hope they never had clue how to use X-men. They have always seen X-franchise as bunch of toys they could cherry pick the best toys and they could just put them anywhere and fans would eat up. Fox never cared for the franchise like MCU does for their characters. DP 2 is great movie but DP2 killed Shatterstar and Black Tom Cassidy for laughs both characters carry some relevance going forward and they can't be used. Fox got the serious tone right. Okay fine but they killed Cyclops and Xavier for no reason in X-3. And that in nutshell has been the fox movie experience.
I am ready for MCU maybe they can make good movie starring Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Jubilee, Wolverine, Rogue ,Gambit and Jubilee . Maybe they will play baseball in some down time, Maybe Magneto will have his Acolytes like Exodus,Amelia Vought and Fabian Cortez.