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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    You think this could be why she left Wonder Woman? Batman is certainly one of the only DC books that's higher profile than WW (Superman and Justice League being the others).

    Whoever takes over, it's going to be tough for them, knowing that they weren't even first choice to take over the book.
    Which in itself is proof enough of how far the book has fallen (or risen, for some, I guess). Honestly, who would have thought that anyone who could take the gig as the first choice from DC would refuse it, just a few years ago ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korath View Post
    Which in itself is proof enough of how far the book has fallen (or risen, for some, I guess). Honestly, who would have thought that anyone who could take the gig as the first choice from DC would refuse it, just a few years ago ?
    Even Bendis is like "Nah"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatmanJones View Post
    He was also asked what his favorite Batman run was and he said it was Tom King's. We have that in common.
    He's a smart guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    Even Bendis is like "Nah"
    What a minute...Bendis has turned down writing Batman? Are you SERIOUS? If so, then that's GREAT news!!! Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Miller View Post
    But the most important news is that he doesn’t think Bats should have a Robin! Mr Cates, you are dead to me! (Hehe) but seriously, dude what?
    Congratulations on dodging that bullet.
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Cates seems to like a lot of modern stuff (I know he's said he's a huge fan of Jason Aaron's Thor).
    Earlier I said DC dodged a bullet, but after finding this out its like DC escaped from Krypton before it exploded lol.
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    ....Whoever takes over, it's going to be tough for them, knowing that they weren't even first choice to take over the book.
    Indeed, I feel sorry for the next writer. They are going to have quite the task.
    "So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    Even Bendis is like "Nah"
    Can't blame him. I wouldn't touch this mess with a ten-foot pole.
    "So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Wilson might be taking over. Someone will be on the book, DC isn’t going to not have Batman on there. And in the WB, Cates and Starlin actually talked and Cates mentions talking to him about Thanos and Batman.
    I would DREAD the backlash to a woman writing Batman on the flagship Batman book. That is probably why Priest passed as well.

    There are too many cooks in the kitchen with Batman and if it's someone entitlement and ESPECIALLY store owners don't care for=no matter how good the book might be-someone would want that writer removed. Sales be danged.

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    To be entirely honest, King has taken so much off the board with his run that much like Spencer over on Amazing Spider-Man, half the next writer's run has to just be putting the pieces back together. Dick, Alfred, Bruce's relationship with just about everyone, the broken pedestal with respect to Thomas, Two-Face, etc.

    This isn't specific to Cates (who seems to be a fan), but writing Batman following a run that essentially changes the playing field to this magnitude (for good or ill) isn't super enticing when a lot of the pieces removed are generally the more well-liked pieces. It's like taking over someone's shift after they made either the best or worst dinner ever, but they didn't clean their station. Dick move.

    Reminds a lot of McDuffie's time on JLA where he was essentially a ghost writer because editorial had so many mandates, or Gail Simone on Wonder Woman where she had to undo a lot of what had been done to Diana prior.
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    DC seems to have the right idea with Batman's direction going forward
    They are finally dismantling the larger batman family and moving some of the older character out
    King's run is different than Morrison's or Snyder's things are changing and the pieces aren't getting put back nice and neat for the next writer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nite-Wing View Post
    DC seems to have the right idea with Batman's direction going forward
    They are finally dismantling the larger batman family and moving some of the older character out
    King's run is different than Morrison's or Snyder's things are changing and the pieces aren't getting put back nice and neat for the next writer
    Wait, what? How is it a good idea to dismantle the Bat-family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeguy91 View Post
    Wait, what? How is it a good idea to dismantle the Bat-family?
    Look at how many folks complain about Batman because of Batfamily dynamics. It is now at a size where it is no longer beneficial to the character.
    It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?

    Since when could just anybody do what we trained to do? It makes it all dumb instead of special. Like it doesn't matter anymore.
    -Dick Grayson (Batman Inc.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeguy91 View Post
    Wait, what? How is it a good idea to dismantle the Bat-family?
    Because it's too freakin' BIG, and a lot of the characters are repetitive; how many Robins have there been now, all they're already hanging around at the same time, together? So basically, the Bat Family has become a huge squad full of Robins and Robin knock offs. It DEFINITELY needs to be parred down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    Even Bendis is like "Nah"
    Lol well he gets his Batman Universe book and he will totally be on someday, with Maleev and Marquez. He just wanted Supes first.

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