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    Also can we get Paulo Siqueira on art duties for an ongoing Wolverine comic?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAHX View Post
    spoilers:
    All we needed was a new, magical Wolverine, damn... My guess is on the last one. but if there's really a new kid and if she/he is still alive in the present, she/he is already an adult so doesn't need much parenting. and I think Logan will learn about it in the upcoming Marvel Comics Presents issues if this is really the case.
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    we have magic wolverins alredy Phoenix logan and weapon hex.also Laura has a hell mark and the unipower really wish that would be brought up again, and his savage kid possibly .given his track record hill kill them be depressed for a issue then never speak about them again. If there going to show him being a parent be a parent to the kids he alredy has.
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    As for why this better then return, this had planning retuen was last minute.

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    I updated my previous message because I don't think we can't post two videos in one message, so here is the youtube version of the Ask Marvel episode with Benjamin Percy talking about both the Long Night, the Lost Trail and teasing new podcasts with other Marvel heroes:




    spoilers:
    He talks a little bit about the Aurora's Cult involvement at the end of this video.
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    hearing him talk he should write more Wolverine or Conan and I'd trust him to cook a steak

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    Quote Originally Posted by comeatmebro View Post
    hearing him talk he should write more Wolverine or Conan and I'd trust him to cook a steak
    Lmao, clearly Benjamin Percy is the hero we need

    But seriously, a Wolverine ongoing by Percy and Juan Ferreyra could be something really interesting.

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    From the upcoming X-Men: Grand Design X-Tinction by Ed Piskor:






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    And a last one just for fun with Piskor confirming he finished drawing the whole thing (the comic part at least):



    source: https://twitter.com/EdPiskor


    I really liked the first 4 issues so I can't wait for this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hush View Post





    And a last one just for fun with Piskor confirming he finished drawing the whole thing (the comic part at least):



    source: https://twitter.com/EdPiskor


    I really liked the first 4 issues so I can't wait for this!
    Yo, when I was young child runnin wild, I owned 2 of those Wolverine action figures in that pic(the brown/orange suit and Weapon X). I remember the brown suit action figure came with a voice box and detachable mask. There were also some small latches behind the wrists that you could pull up to sheathe the claws or to make them snikt. The Weapon X figure just came with that big-ass helmet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin Nick View Post
    Yo, when I was young child runnin wild, I owned 2 of those Wolverine action figures in that pic(the brown/orange suit and Weapon X). I remember the brown suit action figure came with a voice box and detachable mask. There were also some small latches behind the wrists that you could pull up to sheathe the claws or to make them snikt. The Weapon X figure just came with that big-ass helmet though.
    I also had some Wolverine figurines when I was a kid, (not the exact sames as the ones on the picture posted by Piskor it was a Yellow/Blue version and one looking like the green one on the picture) but yeah that's a really cool detail about the small latches behind the wrists on the brown suit figurine

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    I still have to pick up Hulkverines #2. Immortal Hulk showing up mostly carried #1 for me.
    IW #2 better be good. Aaron's Phoenix Logan showing up in #1 killed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX View Post
    How is it that Soule is killing it with Marvel Comics Presents but turned Return of Wolverine into a forgettable snooze fest.
    Yeah. I'm actually looking forward to his MCP stories. RoW could've just been issues 1 and 5 and two beers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    I still have to pick up Hulkverines #2. Immortal Hulk showing up mostly carried #1 for me.
    Same for me, I didn't intend to read it at first but Pak is one of my favourite's Hulk writer (not a big fan of his Totally Awesome Hulk or his Weapon X series though), Immortal Hulk is easily my favourite Marvel series right now (with Venom and Daredevil) and honestly since his resurrection in Avengers No Surrender, Marvel really did a good job with Hulk in every series he appeared.

    It's nice that Al Ewing even made a reference to this mini during Immortal Hulk #14 so we now know when it takes place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hush View Post
    Betsy got this costume AFTER The fall of the mutants.

    I'm not complaining, I really liked the artistic license Piskor showed until now.

    Actually, I didn't enjoyed volume 2 so much because it was too close to the original material.

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    X-Factor #38 Mar 1989
    Inferno! Giant-Sized Spectacular! Part 5 of 7 - "Duet!"
    Continued from Uncanny X-Men #242...

    With the demon N'Astirh seemingly destroyed, the combined forces of the X-Men and X-Factor
    are surprised to not only find that the Inferno spell is still in effect over Manhattan,
    but that the Goblin Queen still has all her powers and is holding Marvel Girl as her hostage.
    Before the two groups of mutants, Madelyne tells her estranged husband Cyclops that she is doing all this for revenge against all those who destroyed
    her life, which she maintains was nothing more than borrowed from others, alluding to the fact that she was not born by conventional means.
    When Colossus points out that the gate to Limbo has been closed and N'Astirh defeated he tells her to give up her mad quest.
    Madelyne refuses, having her own horde of demons to command and that she still intends to sacrifice her son Nathan.

    When the two teams attempt to attack, Longshot's tainted luck powers cause the group bad luck,
    causing them to bump into each other, while fighting the Goblin Queen's demons.
    This leads to the two groups getting into blows once more.

    As Cyclops and Storm battle, Storm once more calls X-Factor mutant hunters saying that they had
    recorded media reports following their missions to allow them to keep tabs on X-Factor's operations.
    When Scott wonders why they didn't know that X-Factor revealed their true purposes recently, he asks her who was keeping the recordings for them.
    Storm realizes it was Madelyne who did, and sees how the woman had deceived the X-Men,
    and has likely been making sure that he two groups would not come into contact with each other for quite some time.
    When Cyclops attempts to attack the Goblin Queen, the evil sorceress uses her powers to move the demonically
    transformed father of Marvel Girl to deflect the blast. Storm's similar attempt to try and strike Maddy down is blocked.

    The Goblin Queen then convinces Dazzler and Longshot (still tainted by the Inferno spell) to help her in exchange for being "stars" of the battle.
    With magically created spotlights following them wherever, the two agree to help,
    attacking Dark Angel, blasting him out of the sky and in Maddy's proximity.
    She uses her magical powers to break Warren's resolve and transform him into a demonic form before he passes out.
    She then unleashes her full magical fury and sends the demons after the X-Men and X-Factor.
    As the mutant groups fight through the demon hoards, the Goblin Queen orders Havok to slay his brother Cyclops.
    Alex, very much in love with Madelyne now and under her thrall, willingly attacks his brother.
    When Longshot and Dazzler attempt to try and kill Cyclops they are swept away by Storm.

    Dark Angel meanwhile manages to shake off Madelyne's influence and uses his wings
    to cut the magical restraint that has been keeping Marvel Girl under Maddy's thrall.

    This also causes some sort of magical feedback that allows Wolverine to shake off Inferno's influence on him and regain his control.
    As the other members of the X-Men and X-Factor are busy keeping Dazzler and Longshot under wraps, Cyclops and Havok battle it out.
    Havok does not listen to any of Scott's attempts to talk sense into him and when Alex puts himself at risk of being buried under rubble,
    his gambit works out when his brother saves his life allowing Alex to knock him out.
    Marvel Girl meanwhile has shaken free of the Goblin Queen's control and the two are locked in mental combat, and Maddy creates an
    impenetrable force-field around the two women and young Christopher Summers so that the others cannot interfere with their final battle together.
    As the two women battle it out, Madelyne once more begins to allude to the fact that she was artificially created.
    MG wars on, furious that between the Phoenix Force and Madelyne, portions of her natural course in life have been usurped by other people.

    While not far, Cyclops is about to be blasted by Havok when Dark Angel fires his razor sharp feathers at Alex,
    sending him over the edge of the Empire State Building. Despite this, Havok unleashes a powerful blast in the hopes of sending Cyclops
    over the edge of the cliff as well. Cyclops manages to grab onto a ledge and save himself, while Havok is rescued by the Dark Angel.
    Inside the force bubble, Madelyne reveals to Marvel Girl the horror that they both share:
    the experience of Jean Grey's school friend Annie Richardson's death.
    As MG struggles to free herself suddenly a portion of the Phoenix Force appears.
    The portion of it's power explains that following it's death on the moon, it attempted to send a
    portion of itself (with it's memories and experiences) to MG as she was healing below Jamaica Bay.
    However MG refused it when she learned the genocide it caused in her image and it instead found a host in Madelyne.

    Outside, the regrouped X-Men and X-Factor begin determining a means to find a weak spot in the telekinetic shield.
    They manage to convince Dazzler to help by pointing out to her that Madelyne has tricked her and that she is not the star of this battle.
    Havok is also convinced to help, however still angry at his brother for how Madelyne was abandoned,

    he only does so to help his brothers estranged wife over anything else.
    With a common cause the two groups begin attacking the field in an attempt to break through and rescue MG.
    Inside, MG learns the shocking truth about Madelyne Pryor: That she is in reality a clone of MG herself created by the evil mutant known as Mr. Sinister.
    Sinister had intended for Madelyne to be the perfect mate for Cyclops in order to spawn a child for some unrevealed reasons.
    When she fulfilled her intended purpose and after Cyclops abandoned her to join X-Factor, Sinister sought to eliminate her and take the child.
    He would send the Marauders to assassinate her. However she would join up with the X-Men who seemingly sacrificed their lives to save the world. Eventually her seething hatred would lead to a deal with N'Astirh.

    Outside, Psylocke manages to convince the depressed Longshot that he still has his good luck power
    and has him toss one of his daggers at the shield to find a weak point.
    Finding it, the teams manage to burst through just as Madelyne attempts to kill both herself and Marvel Girl.
    With this distraction, the Goblin Queen tosses young Christopher, sending his father diving for his boy.
    Attempting to kill them all in the chaos, Madelyne is over powered by MG, who's love for the X-Men gives her the strength to fight back.
    MG then decides the only solution is to accept the portion of the Phoenix Force that resides in Madelyne,
    and in the process also absorbs all of her clones memories and is restored. The power of the Phoenix Force manages to break the Inferno spell
    and make MG a complete woman once more. However Madelyne dies in the process.

    With the battle over, Jean goes to Scott who is both in mourning for the death of his wife but also eternally happy to finally be reunited with his son.
    In the aftermath, everyone gathered notes that the X-Men haven't been restored to normal following their exposure to the Inferno spell
    and wonder if this will cause problems to them in the future. Beast commends Warren for his selfless acts that day
    and his ability to fight against his evil impulses and rechristens him Archangel. Cyclops tries to make amends with his brother,
    however Alex still resents Scott for what he did to Madelyne and tells him that if he could join her side again he wouldn't do things differently.
    In the end Marvel Girl looks at the lifeless body of the woman cloned from her DNA and realizes the pure evil that is Mr. Sinister
    and rallies both groups together to hunt Sinister down and put a stop to him before he causes this sort of travesty again.

    Story by Louise Simonson. Art by Walter Simonson and Al Milgrom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant X View Post
    Betsy got this costume AFTER The fall of the mutants.

    I'm not complaining, I really liked the artistic license Piskor showed until now.

    Actually, I didn't enjoyed volume 2 so much because it was too close to the original material.
    Good catch! With any luck it's going to be fixed or explained.

    I liked the Volume 2 but not as much as Volume 1, I didn't understand some of the changes made by Piskor (the lack of time travel elements during the Days of Future Past "story" for example) and I hope it will be explained in the next volume and that Piskor will finish this mini with a bang!


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    X-Factor #38 Mar 1989
    Inferno! Giant-Sized Spectacular! Part 5 of 7 - "Duet!"
    Continued from Uncanny X-Men #242...

    With the demon N'Astirh seemingly destroyed, the combined forces of the X-Men and X-Factor
    are surprised to not only find that the Inferno spell is still in effect over Manhattan,
    but that the Goblin Queen still has all her powers and is holding Marvel Girl as her hostage.
    Before the two groups of mutants, Madelyne tells her estranged husband Cyclops that she is doing all this for revenge against all those who destroyed
    her life, which she maintains was nothing more than borrowed from others, alluding to the fact that she was not born by conventional means.
    When Colossus points out that the gate to Limbo has been closed and N'Astirh defeated he tells her to give up her mad quest.
    Madelyne refuses, having her own horde of demons to command and that she still intends to sacrifice her son Nathan.

    When the two teams attempt to attack, Longshot's tainted luck powers cause the group bad luck,
    causing them to bump into each other, while fighting the Goblin Queen's demons.
    This leads to the two groups getting into blows once more.

    As Cyclops and Storm battle, Storm once more calls X-Factor mutant hunters saying that they had
    recorded media reports following their missions to allow them to keep tabs on X-Factor's operations.
    When Scott wonders why they didn't know that X-Factor revealed their true purposes recently, he asks her who was keeping the recordings for them.
    Storm realizes it was Madelyne who did, and sees how the woman had deceived the X-Men,
    and has likely been making sure that he two groups would not come into contact with each other for quite some time.
    When Cyclops attempts to attack the Goblin Queen, the evil sorceress uses her powers to move the demonically
    transformed father of Marvel Girl to deflect the blast. Storm's similar attempt to try and strike Maddy down is blocked.

    The Goblin Queen then convinces Dazzler and Longshot (still tainted by the Inferno spell) to help her in exchange for being "stars" of the battle.
    With magically created spotlights following them wherever, the two agree to help,
    attacking Dark Angel, blasting him out of the sky and in Maddy's proximity.
    She uses her magical powers to break Warren's resolve and transform him into a demonic form before he passes out.
    She then unleashes her full magical fury and sends the demons after the X-Men and X-Factor.
    As the mutant groups fight through the demon hoards, the Goblin Queen orders Havok to slay his brother Cyclops.
    Alex, very much in love with Madelyne now and under her thrall, willingly attacks his brother.
    When Longshot and Dazzler attempt to try and kill Cyclops they are swept away by Storm.

    Dark Angel meanwhile manages to shake off Madelyne's influence and uses his wings
    to cut the magical restraint that has been keeping Marvel Girl under Maddy's thrall.

    This also causes some sort of magical feedback that allows Wolverine to shake off Inferno's influence on him and regain his control.
    As the other members of the X-Men and X-Factor are busy keeping Dazzler and Longshot under wraps, Cyclops and Havok battle it out.
    Havok does not listen to any of Scott's attempts to talk sense into him and when Alex puts himself at risk of being buried under rubble,
    his gambit works out when his brother saves his life allowing Alex to knock him out.
    Marvel Girl meanwhile has shaken free of the Goblin Queen's control and the two are locked in mental combat, and Maddy creates an
    impenetrable force-field around the two women and young Christopher Summers so that the others cannot interfere with their final battle together.
    As the two women battle it out, Madelyne once more begins to allude to the fact that she was artificially created.
    MG wars on, furious that between the Phoenix Force and Madelyne, portions of her natural course in life have been usurped by other people.

    While not far, Cyclops is about to be blasted by Havok when Dark Angel fires his razor sharp feathers at Alex,
    sending him over the edge of the Empire State Building. Despite this, Havok unleashes a powerful blast in the hopes of sending Cyclops
    over the edge of the cliff as well. Cyclops manages to grab onto a ledge and save himself, while Havok is rescued by the Dark Angel.
    Inside the force bubble, Madelyne reveals to Marvel Girl the horror that they both share:
    the experience of Jean Grey's school friend Annie Richardson's death.
    As MG struggles to free herself suddenly a portion of the Phoenix Force appears.
    The portion of it's power explains that following it's death on the moon, it attempted to send a
    portion of itself (with it's memories and experiences) to MG as she was healing below Jamaica Bay.
    However MG refused it when she learned the genocide it caused in her image and it instead found a host in Madelyne.

    Outside, the regrouped X-Men and X-Factor begin determining a means to find a weak spot in the telekinetic shield.
    They manage to convince Dazzler to help by pointing out to her that Madelyne has tricked her and that she is not the star of this battle.
    Havok is also convinced to help, however still angry at his brother for how Madelyne was abandoned,

    he only does so to help his brothers estranged wife over anything else.
    With a common cause the two groups begin attacking the field in an attempt to break through and rescue MG.
    Inside, MG learns the shocking truth about Madelyne Pryor: That she is in reality a clone of MG herself created by the evil mutant known as Mr. Sinister.
    Sinister had intended for Madelyne to be the perfect mate for Cyclops in order to spawn a child for some unrevealed reasons.
    When she fulfilled her intended purpose and after Cyclops abandoned her to join X-Factor, Sinister sought to eliminate her and take the child.
    He would send the Marauders to assassinate her. However she would join up with the X-Men who seemingly sacrificed their lives to save the world. Eventually her seething hatred would lead to a deal with N'Astirh.

    Outside, Psylocke manages to convince the depressed Longshot that he still has his good luck power
    and has him toss one of his daggers at the shield to find a weak point.
    Finding it, the teams manage to burst through just as Madelyne attempts to kill both herself and Marvel Girl.
    With this distraction, the Goblin Queen tosses young Christopher, sending his father diving for his boy.
    Attempting to kill them all in the chaos, Madelyne is over powered by MG, who's love for the X-Men gives her the strength to fight back.
    MG then decides the only solution is to accept the portion of the Phoenix Force that resides in Madelyne,
    and in the process also absorbs all of her clones memories and is restored. The power of the Phoenix Force manages to break the Inferno spell
    and make MG a complete woman once more. However Madelyne dies in the process.

    With the battle over, Jean goes to Scott who is both in mourning for the death of his wife but also eternally happy to finally be reunited with his son.
    In the aftermath, everyone gathered notes that the X-Men haven't been restored to normal following their exposure to the Inferno spell
    and wonder if this will cause problems to them in the future. Beast commends Warren for his selfless acts that day
    and his ability to fight against his evil impulses and rechristens him Archangel. Cyclops tries to make amends with his brother,
    however Alex still resents Scott for what he did to Madelyne and tells him that if he could join her side again he wouldn't do things differently.
    In the end Marvel Girl looks at the lifeless body of the woman cloned from her DNA and realizes the pure evil that is Mr. Sinister
    and rallies both groups together to hunt Sinister down and put a stop to him before he causes this sort of travesty again.

    Story by Louise Simonson. Art by Walter Simonson and Al Milgrom.
    Nice post! I'm not the biggest fan of Inferno but there were some really nice moments during that saga, just a shame that we got Al Milgrom's inks over Simonson's pencils in this issue.

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    So I missed this announcement but Mark Waid is going to write a six issues mini series that will tell the history of the Marvel Universe chronologically, with Javier Rodriguez on art.

    And look who appears on the cover:




    And on one of the preview page:



    I can't remember the last time Waid wrote Wolverine (I think it was during the Onslaught event back in the 90s when he was writing X-Men) but he knows the Marvel history really well and he's good when it comes to fix continuity, so with any luck he's going to streamline Wolverine's backstory and get rid of the Way/Loeb nonsense.


    Edit: Now I remember, Wolverine appeared during Waid's Daredevil run:

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