yeah, that's one reason i linked rather than put in an argument: nuances such as main vs support should be taken into account and an honest examination of past stories might show that the sex or gender of a character shows up more in one category than another, like marz is quoted on that wiki in saying.
that being said, maybe we're at a point in culture where fridging is egalitarian? idk, i've got no data either way. the fact that people here are so aware and cautious of it, says a lot.
thinking about it, janine being fridged has already been subverted in a past story.
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The term fridging is taken from Women in Refrigerators. The term was coined in 1999 after Gail Simone noticed female characters were disproportionately killed, tortured or maimed in comics. The list of characters include main ones such as Black Canary and Wonder Woman, not just side characters. It also includes popular characters, such as Betty Ross Banner, not just no-name characters. The website still exists.
Over time, fridging has been expanded to refer to any character killed, maimed, tortured, brainwashed or otherwise incapacited solely to make another character feel really, really sad, with the fridged character's death having no other meaning or story significance. If Janine were to be killed/tortured/maimed/terrorized just so Ben will be hurt/angry/lash out, that is classic fridging. Fridging is bad not only because it usually carries misogynist undertones when it happens to a female character, but also because it is, quite simply, lazy writing.
Fridging does not mean "i don't like the story given to a character." You're thinking of nerfed, or the classic standbys "out of character/out of continuity," or merely "the writer is hack."They took Miles's best story and character development and fridged that which is worse.
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yeah, from memory that had all the boxes ticked for a possible fridge (with ben getting a rage power up) before it was revealed as a fake out. let me know if i've got it wrong.
the mannequin thing might be the best argument yet for anyone who wants to say ben didn't inherit peter's brains.
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I agree. As much as I like Kaine, he is the last person who should lecture someone. He was a murderer, constantly meddling with lives of his brothers. I'm rooting for him of course, but I didn't like his attitude towards Ben i BR:SS. After everything Ben's done in the past, Kaine should at least try to talk to him, but his first action was to kill Ben. I don't know, it felt ooc to me (just like almost everything in BR:SS, but taking aside the few good issues, it was a total mess, and luckily ending is non-canon).
I have to agree that "fridging" is simply lazy writing. Maybe it was acceptable back in the '90s , but in 2021 violence against women is not acceptable. That doesn't mean that if the story will work better by killing a female or male character, then I think that it's ok.
I think that it all depends on how the death of a character takes place.
I feel dirty doing anything close to praise regarding CC, but Kaine saw many alternate realities when Ben destroyed the world with his plan and he was still the same evil asshole once that story was over, so i can see why Kaine wouldn't be willing to give him a chance. Then again, i didn't read PAD Scarlet Spider (is on the list) so i don't know how Kaine or Ben acted.
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