"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
What tremendous reflexes outside of the one off showing against Quicksilver? Everything he did, physical movement speed wise, I could replicate. He can multitask but that's not really a speed feat, especially since he has a personal force field around himself which allows him to not have to worry too much about being overwhelmed.
Apocalypse catching Quicksilver really didn't read as a reaction feat to me. I took it as Apocalypse taking a beating until he figured out where Peter was going to attack from, then setting a trap under there. It seemed kinda significant that he didn't just throw out a wall or punch as soon as Quicksilver started attacking.
I think that you're also overstating his multi-tasking ability; he never does two complicated actions at once. He was either paying attention to the mental world or the physical world, and he was mostly just keeping his defense up and taking the occasional shot in either.
Yea, why we over-hyping Ivan Ooze ?
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
You seem very intent on discrediting a guys best showing (arguably) despite having literally only 1 film to establish himself.
Look at Catwoman tagging 3 Flash members at once. That's silly because she has an enormous number of showings and moments in her history that establish her as being too slow to do that. That makes sense. Ignoring the feats from a 1 movie character just feels downright off to me.
Dark Pheonix has an identical feat. Want to toss out hers as well?
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Catwoman has consistent feats showing what her actual speed is (CBPH), not a one off against the Flashes. I'm not trying to discredit anything, but using a very vague speed feat when the rest of the movie has nothing to support it is illogical. If he had even one more vague feat or even a statement of his speed by someone that would be something. Nothing in the movie to me suggests he has legit super speed.
So let me ask you. Do you think he actually has Quicksilver level reacting speed?
There's nothing contradicting the one showing in the one movie he was in really just like dark Phoenix showing it seems legit I don't see the big deal.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
yeah. it's looking kind iffy to say he has that level of reaction speed.
It wasn't a trap at all, but an active attempt to grab at the guy's leg mid sprint. We also see his eyes darting back and forth despite being in slow time, meaning pieces of his physical body were literally moving at super sonic speeds. He made a pinpoint grab at those speeds. Whole sequence was over in tiny fractions of a single second.
Yes I do. It is the reason I think he beats Strange.
Ok! You now agree that Catwoman tagging Flash is nonsense because of the huge character history we can pull from to establish the feat as nonsense. We are now on the same page.
Now eliminate the idea of Catwoman from your mind. She never existed. No decades of comics to pull from. Replace her with say.... "Feline Fiend" or something. Now FF is only ever printed in ONE comic. In that book she mostly operates at around what we think Batman does on panel. Except near the end of the comic, let's say a sniper blasts at her from behind. She manages to spin around, smile, and duck the bullet with ease.
Do we say FF isn't a bullet timer on Rumbles? I mean, she neeeever moved that fast compared to Batman in the pages leading up to the end of the comic. It's a total outlier based on those previous pages!
Spoiler alert: FF would be a bullet timer just fine. I dont see why Apoc is any different? He has 1 movie. Like 10 minutes (or less) of actual combat scenes in that movie. He does a thing - up to and including moving actual body parts - at a speed capable of catching QS.
I really dont see the problem. If we toss this feat out, we then open the doors to toss out loads of Rumbles standards feats.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Why? Despite the suprise nature of the unknown opponent showing up + the damage he was taking + the disorientation of being flung around, he STILL manages to defend himself. Given the whole scene is in slow time perspective, he does so at enormous speeds.
Best you can say is that he isn't quite as fast as QS given he didnt stop him immediately.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure