Controversy is good for the buzz, pun intended, please continue... PASSIONATELY!
Controversy is good for the buzz, pun intended, please continue... PASSIONATELY!
Idea's Open Discussion And Growth. Silencing Idea's Confirms Them To Be True In The Minds Of Those Who Hold Them. The Attempt Of Eliminating Idea's Proves You To Be A Fool.
Is there anything more cultish than a small group of people obsessed with a fringe / conspiracy-like theory on something that self-validates themselves with information gathered from the internet and thinks who disagree with them can’t see THE TRUTH and will be hopefully enlightened by the above mentioned and cherry picked internet sourced information?
Idea's Open Discussion And Growth. Silencing Idea's Confirms Them To Be True In The Minds Of Those Who Hold Them. The Attempt Of Eliminating Idea's Proves You To Be A Fool.
Last edited by DragonsChi; 12-08-2019 at 09:42 AM.
Idea's Open Discussion And Growth. Silencing Idea's Confirms Them To Be True In The Minds Of Those Who Hold Them. The Attempt Of Eliminating Idea's Proves You To Be A Fool.
Nope. I see no Cult of Krakoa, whether implied or otherwise.
Lord Ewing *Praise His name! Uplift Him in song!* Your divine works will be remembered and glorified in worship for all eternity. Amen!
Multiple feelings, maybe… not hazardous feelings.
For me, this "At this point, we can't be sure what Hickman is trying to say" is bad story-telling. Sure, some elements must be left hidden for the sake of the plot. But an author must have a control over his/her readers' reactions/feelings. The 'it's cultish' vs 'I don't see any cult'… it's a lack of mastery, it should be obvious. Otherwise, it's not comics, it's market, you get what you want.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
Fascinating. Please explain to us in detail exactly who and what you are referring to.
As for Krakoa: yes, it has controversial, cultish or ominous elements. So what? It’s a provocative, invigorating and exciting new status quo for the X-Men for the first time in almost twenty years. It is responding to the sociocultural tides of the times we live in, which have changed over the last 50+ years. It’s taken the minority activist metaphor to a new height and yes, in some ways extreme. But I can’t argue that anything the X-Men have done here is wrong or unlike any other nation, or a too rash response to their threats. If you don’t get it, you might not always get modern activist movements. That’s your problem, it’s not mine. Also: this is fiction. I can enjoy my fantastical allegory for militant minority vengeance without wanting to join the Peoples Temple in real life, because I’m a fucking adult who can distinguish between funnybooks and real life.
So guess what: of course it has cultish elements, and I don’t care. I love the controversy, I love the questionable morality and I hope it reigns a long, long time.
I think it's good that you find it fascinating, but I have a lot of trouble actually have a hard time fully enjoying some of what I'm reading because of those unsettling vibes. I guess I'm looking for the sense of homeliness that the X-Men often gave in moments of down-time, which I can't see on Krakoa because of such unsettling feelings. It makes me worry too much for the characters even when they're supposedly safe, like they aren't in control of their situation which is a horrible, horrible feeling to have to revel in, trust me. While I understand and admire the mystery, I'm honestly just wishing they'd hurry up and find somewhere where they can just town-down some of the creepier elements for, like, five minutes. Even if it were better written (which, in my opinion, it wasn't) that would have added a lot to Scott's attempts at interacting with his children; because of all this uncertainty it's kind of difficult to really be able to 100% care about that, if that makes sense? Or, I think, I can't enjoy it because ya know, the feelings it gives off. Those kinds of moments really shouldn't be overshadowed in that respect, I think.
Last edited by Domino_Dare-Doll; 12-08-2019 at 10:29 AM. Reason: why was it censoring the word 're live'
1. You putting words in mouth. Most of my post have been very short so there is little way of you knowing how I feel or think. So please keep your assumptions to a minimum. Thank you.
2. If your really interested in who I am referring to look for post in other threads were posters are activity stating either corralling and/or killing people they don't like or agree with. While other posters seem to either be in agreement or apathetic to the extremeness of the post.
3. It's great that you are an adult who wants nuance but these books/characters are being pushed more towards younger audiences so maybe your encouragement of your funny books promoting extremist themes on young people says more about you then your ability to distinguish things. But that's your problem not mine.
Idea's Open Discussion And Growth. Silencing Idea's Confirms Them To Be True In The Minds Of Those Who Hold Them. The Attempt Of Eliminating Idea's Proves You To Be A Fool.
In movies, comics, there is a "dialogue" between the author and the reader/viewer. The reader expects some things to happen and the author either gives them or denies them. Hickcock was very good with that. But to do that, you must guide your reader and lead him/her to the places you prepare for him/her.
The fact there is so much divergence between the readers means Hickman haven't completely succeed in doing what he wanted: either it's a cult or it is not. He must have decided previously… and set up things accordingly.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe