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Can we be serious here? Race wasn't the primary reason Claremont wrote that scene. Dude is a highly noted BDSM enthusiast who wanted to slip some stuff under the radar. Ororo getting dominated and then seizing power is only his favorite kinky scenario ever. How many closeups of her sweat strewn face, eyes shut in denial, choke collar or other instrument applied, do we need for evidence?
"A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.
Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.
No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.
(You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)
You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.
Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."
Funny enough none of the multiple villains who have tried to subjugate Storm over the years have ever drawn parallels to america's slavery. Only her bestie Jean did that. Claremont knew exactly what he was doing and if he wanted to play up the bdsm angle there was no need for the racist overtones since Jean was already in dominatrix attire and the action is happening in a bdsm club.
Yes, there should be.
The idea that mutants are this monolithic legion of followers/worshippers of whatever Xavier is doing on Krakoa is naive at best.
Mutants are humans, just as sapiens are humans.
Therefore, variety and diversity among them, both physically and philosophically is not only expected, but very much a natural outcome from them living in society.
I Don't really like the left-wing/right-wing division: from country to country it can be more or less pronounced, id est "left wing" in the US is light-years away from what "left wing" is in France for example, which can lead to confusion in exchanges like this.
And even within the same country, it can wildly differ from era to era.
That being said.
Even if we go from the postulate that mutants would decide to build a society where only their kind would be part of, there would be divergences occuring naturally:
- Physical appearance: mutants with the physical appearance of sapiens (Jean Grey) and mutants with partial to complete non-human features (Glob Herman).
- Power sets: mutants with powerful powerset (Ororo), or useful powerset (Cypher) and mutants with useless powerset (Ugly John).
- Background: mutants who used to live in nations with oppressive regimes, as opposed to mutants who lived in "free", "democratic" nations and, down the line, mutants who will be born and raise on Krakoa, without ever having experienced the outside world.
And that's just three factors off the top of my head, leading to six, potentially seven sub-groups of mutants with a different experience of life right on that island. And I didn't dive into how genders would factor-in, or familial upbringing, or wealth, and so on and so forth…
So I find it cute when people say the way Krakoa is set up is remotely believable, because "mutants all want to survive annihilation, right", therefore they become this uniformized group of people with this uniformized opinion (or lack thereof) on anything happening or done on Krakoa by what is, right now, the ruling class.
But sadly, that's a fantasy.
Wishful-thinking.
No society ever worked like this, and mutant societies would be no different.
The only Reason I could see why a new range of political Spectrum wouldn't be represented here would be if the writer was imposing purposefully the idea that, at the end of the day, comics are a vehicle for escapism, therefore Krakoa is MEANT to be that unbelievable, unnatural social utopia.
I Don't think Hickman is that type of writer at all though, so I expect to see gradual splintering on Krakoa down the line.
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"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."
Yeah i think it should come into play. I just don't buy this nicely fit together society of mutants some of which have clashed against each other in the past to now just be all willing sheep ready to follow.If survival is the endgame, would we not see multiple viewpoints of how this can be achieved. Here is a question does anyone think that some mutants might have more of a connection to their families or homelands?Anyway i could see The Hellfire Club becoming a catalyst for political divide. I think most members of the HFC would be right leaning. I'm hoping we get some realigning of ideologies, seeing Exodus being celebrated by young mutant children could be a great way to reintroduce some x-villians as sorta anti-heroes in the X-verse.
That is very true. Now with most countries working with Krakoa to get the Krakoan plant could some countries begin to try to be more fair to mutants hoping to use them as bargaining chips. I could see some countries begin to offer sweet deals to mutants if they stay in the country and be a mutant representative\celebrity. With the new paradigm mutants could be a valuable resource as a sorta bargaining chip against Krakoa in the future. On the flipside countries not cooperating like Wakanda and Russia could form their own national mutant teams loyal to thier countries to combat the smuggling operations of the Mauraders. Or countries could follow the lead of Canada and form their own versions of Alpha Flight.
"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."